Trump asks Supreme Court to block release of his White House records to January 6 committee

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  1. Durandal

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    Trump asks Supreme Court to block release of his White House records to January 6 committee

    Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump appealed to the Supreme Court on Thursday to block the release of documents from his White House to the House committee investigating the January 6 riot at the Capitol, escalating his effort to keep about 700 pages of records secret.

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    In filings submitted to the Supreme Court on Thursday, Trump asked the justices to take up a full review of the case and he requested that while they consider his position, they put a hold on the lower court decision permitting the disclosure of his records while they consider taking up the case.

    "The limited interest the Committee may have in immediately obtaining the requested records pales in comparison to President Trump's interest in securing judicial review before he suffers irreparable harm," Trump's lawyers wrote in the court filings.

    ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/23/politics/donald-trump-supreme-court-records-january-6/index.html

    Heh. As is typical for him, Trump is fighting much harder to keep his dirty little secrets secret than he is to, say, challenge the legality of the 2020 election despite all of his baseless claims.

    Looking at the argument his liars-- err, lawyers are making here, this is doomed to total failure, though. The argument revolves around The Donald, not around the presidency or even Congress's powers. It's plainly just about protecting the precious narcissistic crook from having his past conduct exposed to anyone with the authority to do anything about it, including make it known to the public.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    In the end nothing of substance will be discovered. This is just a run out the clock ploy designed to limit the amount of time leftists have to make-up sensationalist headlines. You watch, they'll find a call sheet or an inconsequential email and that is, but it will be enough for them to manufacture a grand 'coup' just as they did with Russia Russia Russia. In the meantime inflation surges, COVID surges, Brandon's agenda crumbles, and all Democrats will be seen doing is sitting in their committees circle jerking over yet another fabricated delusion.
     
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    Have to agree for the most part with what I put in bold and only that. I have to assume that he and his circle can't be dumb enough to actually submit records that would incriminate them. However, you simply never know. Hopefully, SCOTUS makes a ruling one way or the other very quickly.
     
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    Wow...
    Why is Trump Acting GUILTY?
    Trump is Running Scared..
    What does Trump have to Hide?

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    Still eating that nothing burger?
    Here’s the deal. I’m sure he DID incite people going to the capital
    The thing is, he did NOT incite violence (there is no proof that he did)
    This is just another circus like the klooshun hoax
    If anything, seeing the crazy sentences Jan 6th protesters are getting compared to the docile treatment of BLM protestors that burned buildings, beat people and looted have received, it’s painting a huge picture of hypocrisy
    At this point Jan 6th might actually help the GOP.
     
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    I don't think they will ever get him there, maybe at one time but no longer, the system is too corrupted now. I am going to simply say it:

    I think he, as an ex-POTUS, is now above the law.
     
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    You seem to forget that the committee is not made up of "leftists."

    The records being sought will likely answer a lot of longstanding questions about what was going on in the West Wing while the rioters overran the police and pillaged the Capitol for hours and the insurrectionists hunted for lawmakers to do terrible things to -- all, arguably, at Trump's behest -- and Trump did nothing more than tweet or otherwise publicly state more support than condemnation for what they were doing.
     
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    I think with the NY AG and others not allowing his status to stop them and with public opinion likely to be very unkind to him once the Committee gets what it is seeking and begins with public hearings and such, Trump absolutely will be held to account.
     
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    That's what you've been spoon fed by fake news media. That's what Democrats in this circle jerk committee are going to try and fabricate. But its just not that happened. We have his speech, we have his tweets, in which he crystal-fkin-clearly called for peaceful protesting and when that didn't happen he told people to go home. Regardless of what you believe you have no evidence of anything else. Now at some point someone, maybe you, is going to spam this forum with the puke of lies that fake news outlets generate when they do get hold of a call sheet or an email because its undoubted that Trump was on the phone in those 4 hours but you will be disgusting and regurgitating nothing but the same sort of baseless fabricated speculation that we spent years enduring in the Russian Russia Russia Stormy Stormy Stormy Quid Pro Quo Quid Pro Quo Quid Pro Quo sagas.

    Leftists believe these "records" are holding an armory's smoking guns but the basis for that belief is nothing more than the sinister subtle way media presents the nature of their existence. You're not going to get anything.
     
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    Liz Cheney and many other Republicans agree, actually.
     
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    Everything channeled through White House communications is logged electronically, and stored/audited outside of White House purview, and recorded by a staffer who most often is sitting in on the call. Its just unreasonable to think some smoking gun is going to be found just because Congress is looking. Our NSA, CIA, FBI, and DHS have been spying on this President since before he even was President, they have completely proven on numerous occasions that they will act against him whenever possible. If there was something damning out there it would have already come to light.

    Plus the premise here is just moronic. Democrats want people to believe in some grand orchestrated coup, led by Trump, that.. uh.. was slapped together in the 4-5 hour timespan they're seeking records for? Nah. I see this for what it is; another Russia Russia Russia Shampeacehment scam. They'll get their records, they'll fabricate connections, speculate on intent, and insist on plotting, and use that to justify more and more and more and more digging - not because they think they'll find anything, but because that way their comrades in state controlled media can continue to generate headlines.
     
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    Trump needs to win the Presidency again or he's going to Jail

    What a messed up country we have become ............ Sad

    We need to time travel and save our country by going back to June in 1946
     
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    A few idiots on the right doesn't make this a bipartisan pursuit. This is the left's Shampeacement Vol. 3 - regardless of having a few token Repubs in on the scam.
     
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    A bunch of scared and conniving idiots on the right doesn't make this a "shampeachment."
     
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    As expected but it's not bad
    No, it's actually doing very well
    People are going to go to jail. If what they are doing is "delusional" in your mind then you're going to be really surprised.
     
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    That's a cute talking point and all. Too bad it's horseshit. More than 70 BLM rioters are in prison for an average of 27 months. More than 10 are in prison for a minimum of 5 years.

    Now I know trumpists believe that the traitors who stormed the Capitol with intent to kill and harm congress folks should just all be able to go home and eat their organic food that mama gave them their entire life, but tough ****.

    https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
     
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    So what do you think they are hiding?
     
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    I actually hope Dumbocrats are successful in removing Trump executive privilege. They won't find anything but that doesn't matter. What does matter (if successful) will set yet another precedent that will bite them in the ass yet again, but are just too dumb to even have the foresight to know.

    The very same thing happened when Dumbocrats changed the Senate confirmation vote for 60 to 51 so they could get a few federal judges through. What they were too dumb to know was, that new precedent set by Dumbocrats was the reason Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barret were confirmed with only 51 votes.

    Now Biden comes out and claims he is removing Trumps privilege.
    He has no power to do so which is why this is going to the courts
    Then Biden claims his DOJ is removing Trumps executive privilege,
    They have no power to do so which is why its going to the courts.
    Then the committee claims they are removing Trumps executive privilege.
    They have no power to do so which is why its going to the courts.

    Just like their committee claimed they are getting Trumps tax returns, and we all saw how that turned out.

    But the left continued to drool all over those claims like executive privilege only exist if they allow it.
    And before the left jumps in with their version, Dumbocrats want everything and anything coved by executive privilege.

    So if they are successful, what do you think is going to happen next? Are they actually dumb enough to think there will never be another Republican president or Republican control of the House or Senate?
    Are they so blinded they can't even remember when they changed the Senate conformation vote which cost them 3 SCOTUS positions?

    If executive privilege can be removed, they don't think Republicans will be getting Obama's and Biden's private conversations? But they don't care right now because all they can see is 5 years of failed fake claims against Trump that amounted to squat, getting egg on their faces so bad, that the supporting leftist media has now lost over 80% of their viewers and have lower viewer ratings than Nickelodeon or the Cartoon channel.

    Please, please, please find a way to remove Trumps executive privilege. PLEASE

    That will be a great day for Republicans.
     
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    When you find one of those rioters charged with attempted murder, you let us all know.
    Until then, the only Horses*** being spread are the idiotic claims from the left.
    But as per usual, like 5 years of horses*** we all saw with the hundreds of fake leftist claims about Trump that amounted to squat, so shall this.
     
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    Yet Pelosi removes all Republicans she doesn't want on the committee and you have the balls to call it non partisan?
    Thats pretty funny right there.
     
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    Which one of the traitorous magas who stormed the Capitol has been charge with attempted murder?

    Did you her that your hero encourages his adoring base to get vaccinated? Did you get yours yet? Don't wanna upset the messiah of maga.
     
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    If that wishful thinking is merited, why try so frantically to hide it?

    The desperate pretense to evade exposure by a duly-constituted congressional investigative committee is to be expected, but such a horrific attack upon our democratic process as was documented on January 6 demands answers.

    Presumably, the 700+ Trump goons who were identified, apprehended, and are being prosecuted - some having being convicted and some having confessed - did not happen to kill America's proud 200+ year tradition of peaceful transfers of power on the same day as a matter of mere coincidence.

    The goons were directed to do as they did when they did it. What was the common motivation?

    After Loser Tump had told his mob, We were going to the Capitol to fight, he absconded back to the White House. They went to the capitol and fought:

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    Trump stayed publicly silent as his goons breached the Capitol. The committee investigating the riot is attempting to determine why the Loser took so long to call off his goons as they rampaged, injuring 140 outnumbered police defending democracy.

    It is known that Trump resisted multiple calls to intervene on Jan. 6 while watching his goons rioting on television for 187 minutes, before finally released a video calling on his supporters to stand down. Finally mewling, “You have to go home now,” “We love you,” “You’re very special.”

    Conservative Congresswoman Liz Cheney, a member of the special investigative committee: “The violence was evident to all — it was covered in real-time by almost every news channel. But, for 187 minutes, President Trump refused to act when action by our president was required, indeed essential, and compelled by his oath to our Constitution.”

    “Hours passed without necessary action by the president. These non-privileged texts are further evidence of President Trump’s supreme dereliction of duty during those 187 minutes.”


    Should the Loser be allowed to conceal what he did and didn't do for over three hours as he watched his goons attacking Congress while making no known effort to stop them?

    Despite cultish veneration of the Loser that places him above the law and national security interests, it's a reasonable and pertinent question.
     
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    Why is this a problem you ask?

    Because there was no attack on congress. Folks know this and are tired of hearing the noise. And just how many more times should Trump be "gone after" with zero results?

    At this point it is clear that Trump's political opponents are simply going after the opposition at all costs. It is time to call an end to this farce.
     
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    Mitch McConnell (R) blames Trump for deadly Capitol riot
    "The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people."

    Kevin McCarthy (R) blames Trump for riot
    “The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.”


    Lindsey Graham (R) calls for prosecution of rioters
    "Those who made this attack on our government need to be identified and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
    Their actions are repugnant to democracy."

    Former Attorney General William Barr (R) said the violence at the Capitol building is “outrageous and despicable."

    I fully understand why Trump desperately needs to conceal his activity during the three hours his goons were rampaging through the Capitol to which he had directed them, but...

     
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