Trump Blasts Social Media ‘Censorship': ‘Discriminating Against Republican/Conservative Voices’

It isn't free speech when the government's gun is doing the deciding.

 

Are we to believe it's free speech when Facebook is doing the deciding?

Someone has to enforce free speech, and if we can't count on the liberal media conglomerates; then we have to count on the federal government enforcing it upon those conglomerates.

 

Good joke, lol. I may use that one sometime.

That’s not the original site, though. The .com has been seized by Google with no due process whatsoever. They have had over 20 different extensions and they have all been banned eventually. For a while they were only found on the dark web.

This argument has never made sense to me. We can’t give people the ability to freely question the details of this one historical event, or else they will eventually do something that they don’t even believe happened?

The truth shouldn’t fear legitimate inquiry. If denial of the holocaust is so stupid then it should be extremely easy to debunk. The people who believe in it would be tantamount to people who believe the moon is made out of cheese. Nobody would take them seriously. But when we see 90 year old women being carted off to jail for doubting even a minor detail from the official narrative (even if they otherwise subscribe to the rest of it), it makes some people wonder why dissent is forbidden by law on this one single historical event, no others.

 

there are no wealthy Conservatives in the USA?

 

Do you think you are owed a venue or an audience?

 

So....... are you saying that a handful of US conservatives have more rights than 2.23 Billion global users?

That all of those 2.23 Billion are "liberals"?

 

Well, not ones willing to fund Trump supporters it seems

 

Indeed, makes you wonder why "holocaust denial" is illegal in 13 western European countries. Some of the narrative has already been debunked. For instance, the lampshades out of human skin was debunked, as were the stories of soap being made out of the fat of Jewish bodies. If these stories were fake, what else was fake?

 

Ostracized from society for having a different view of history? Really?

 

I won’t comment on Ms. Rosenbaum’s libertarian positions, other than to say I disagree with them. As another poster mentioned already, a private company offering a public service, like telephone service, heat, electricity, doesn’t have the right to turn off your service if they don’t like you or your views. They have to give you service. An internet DNS service, which allows someone to register a website name, shouldn’t keep a law abiding citizen from having his own website, just because management doesnt like anything to the right of Lenin.

 

Reread your constitution. Facebook's behavior is outside the scope of the first amendment because it is not a government entity. If you are concerned about monopolies and their power to contain speech, stay focused on passing laws that deal with monopolies. If they are so big that their policies will significantly impair access to speech, they are too big to exist as monopolies because those won't be the only policies they write. My point is this issue 'discrimination' is just a symptom. The disease is what needs attention.

 

Thanks. I'm a big fan of puns.

Yep. And Google requires no due process. They can literally deny you access to their systems at any point they like. How much power are you willing to give the Govt to do something about it?

What other historical event runs parallel that you can compare this two in terms of how much debate over its very existence is allowed?

Beyond that, the very debate of it is kind of insulting. I consider it on par to flat earthers (though you dont get much violence around that )but place the sad bemusement with disgust. Its an argument used by antisemites to disenfranchise the Jewish community by basically calling they and all who where there and have confirmed it liars and frauds.

 

Well, definitely not the part about there being a gas chamber in Auschwitz, since it's explicitly mentionned as such in Nazi documents :



Vergasungskeller = gassing room.

I'm really disappointed that a member who criticizes the lack of free thinking on this forum supports such a joke as Holocaust denial, mindlessly repeating their thoroughly debunked talking points. Like the classical "some people lie about the Holocaust for personal gain, therefore the genocide itself didn't happen". Yes, with such a big business, there are always profiteers. The contrary would be surprising in fact. It shows absolutely nothing.

Maybe you should look into this stuff yourself with critical thinking of your own.

 

"Trump Blasts Social Media Censorship"

I agree with everything you say in your post ! What I question is the "Trump" comment as Trump was the one who was hell bent on getting rid of net neutrality ... a move which opens the censorship door wide.

Trump is only against Censorship when it benefits him - in general Trump is a big fan of Censorship.

 

According to critics (not me, I completely believe the official narrative, of course) they had gassing rooms to disinfect clothes and other items that could have carried typhus, which was documented before and after the war as a huge problem. Many died in allied controlled camps from typhus and other diseases.

 

do NOT derail this thread into one denying the Holocaust!!!!!!!!

 

Altlite, I am sorry you are disappointed in my post. You are one of the forum members that I respect. I enjoy your posts, they are well thought out and from a position of critical thinking and truth seeking. However, I must take exception to this post. Nowhere did I imply anything about gas chambers. Furthermore, everything I posted is factual. I am a critic of ANY wartime propaganda. Surely you can remember the girl that was trotted out before the US Senate prior to the first gulf war to claim that the Iraqis were taking babies and throwing them on the floor. Turns out they were flat out lies, and this girl turned out to be the daughter of the US ambassador to Kuwait. I have indeed investigated the holocaust, and much of what I learned differs from what we have been told. I do not wish to derail this thread, so I will refrain from giving my thoughts further on this topic.

 

No, but I do think the liberal media monopolies owe it to the general public not to deny them their free speech rights; and if they do, heavy sanctions should be levied against them.

Why do you on the left hate free speech so much?

 

I disagree.. and I can't think of any legal theory which would justify that.. They can hire a hall, or buy an advertisment if someone will sell them space, but no one has an obligation to provide them with a venue.

 

Where did I say there was an obligation to provide them a venue? What time zone are you in? Maybe you should get some rest, and try again in the morning.

 

I think she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador.. not the US ambassador to Kuwait.

 

I think she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador..

You just said something about the democrats owning social media... Well, let this person start up their own social media ....

 

I think she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador..

 

No one is owed a venue. But when someone as large as Facebook does own a venue, they owe it to their users not to deny them their free speech rights. Facebook is a publicly owned company with 2.23 billion monthly users; they are not a private company or mom-and-pop shop. Instead, they are a large media conglomerate using their powerful monopoly to censor the conservative speech of some, and not the liberal speech of others.

It is the constitutional duty of the Federal Government to reign in such abuses of power; and to restore the constitutional right of free speech to all Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram users.

 

Yeeeeerrrrsssss

And if 2.22 billion people want moderation and Jones kicked off then who is more right?