Trump doubles down on sanctions - threatening Europe with divorce

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Sorry I don't respond to TDS post
     
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    Yes, I can see how 'ruling with an iron fist' would appeal to German culture and sentiments.
     
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    Letting Iran become the dominant military force in the Arab world and acquire nukes is anything but the path to stabilize the middle East and will have the exact opposite effect. You think you have a bad imigration problem now? You ain't seen nothing yet.
     
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    al Sisi stabilized Egypt, crushed your beloved Muslim Brotherhood. I can see how this hurts you. Putin calls you Empire of Chaos for a reason.
     
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    There are many unpredictable scenarios and it's tough to speculate what may happen. But there will be serious problems certainly and, despite NATO, I'd like the US , Canada and all non-European nations to not become involved. Let the Europeans sort out their own problems this time and then deal with the winners.
     
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    We have made our decission.

    INSTEX was instaleld friday and first transactions run. UK, Germany and France as well as China and Japan want buy oil from Iran soon. Accept it.
     
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    You're right that Barack Obama's Mideast policy led to much of the chaos we see now and, apart from his support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, his removal of troops from Iraq in December of 2011 was the worst American foreign policy blunder in its history, and could have been deliberate. However the Europeans also brought the problems we see now onto themselves.
     
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    Sleep with dogs and you wake up with fleas.
     
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    I do not deny that Iran is a state that supports groups such as Hamas - groups that sometime engage in terrorism. The one in denial and abject hypocrisy is you - over the fact that Saud/USA are way bigger supporters of terrorism - and terrorist groups that are far worse than Hamas.
     
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    What are you talking about ? Iran does not have a nuke. Protection from Iranian nukes has never been claimed by the State Dept - nor has protection from Russian nukes.

    Regardless - that does not change the fact that our actions destabilized nuclear detente'.

    That you don't care about ramping up the arms race is also irrelevant. This does not change the fact that destabilization of nuclear detente is a bigger threat to global security than Iran.
     
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    Yup - and we are sleeping with the worst kind of Dogs - El Saud, Al Qaeda, ISIS.
     
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    I visited West Germany in the 60's. I found the people not as welcoming as, say the Italians but I didn't encounter anybody as rude or arrogant as Sobo. I assume he is just one of the bad ones. Hopefully he will stay in Germany and not visit here.
     
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    And you will have to accept the results of your siding once again with fascism and terrorist and quit your whining about US sanctions.
     
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    How do you know? Did the UN tell you that?
     
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    We know that since we slept in same bed as americans
     
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    We are the ones that defeated ISIS and you just engaged in the quickest revisionist history in history. LOL
     
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    Whining? We simly ignore you. We proceed as planned. Same counts for Nordstream II
     
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    Wrong, Russia destroyed ISIS. You build it up and supported them.
     
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    Im not rude. I´m quite reasonable. If we meet i would treat you fair as long you dont act primitive towards me.
     
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    Don't hate us just because we defeated you in two world wars you started. Take your defeat like good little NAZI soldiers​
     
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    I wasn't addressing you.
     
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    We did start WW I? How so? We joined 2 weeks after it was already broken out.

    I find it funny how you swing to pathetic insults now.

    It must really hurt you to see us not follow you and basicly ignore you.

    Same as for Nordstream II. The pipeline is being build, against all your rants and insults.
     
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    No comment on all the US troops iran helped kill and injure I see
     
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    Whats your problem? Did Iran kill your troops within your own borders? No? Good. Inside Iraq or Syria they are free game.

    I find it hilarious that you believe you can attack others and face to counterstrike
     
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    Why should russia no longer being able to nuke poland be destabilizing?
     

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