And they represent, in total, a tiny minority of healthcare. The majority are covered through employer based groups.
not even worse than France( ranked #1) according to your own article!! "The WHO rankings, however, do not mean that the French system is unequivocally superior to the American. In fact, both systems could profit from an understanding of the other’s strengths. Toward that end, this analysis paper compares the health care systems of both countries and assesses how they can learn from each other in order to deal with their impending health care crises." Moreover, the problem with our system is that it is socialist. Capitalism would reduce prices 80% and add 10-20 years to our lifespans. Of course that will be Greek to you because you think Medicare is the name of a capitalist company!!
No, it’s reality. He cost of a procedure, or medication, has absolutely nothing to do with the income of the one in need of it.
wrong if you get sick in Niger nobody is offering you a $20,000 operation. Do you understand? When they have MRI machines for example they are small cheap ones based on income of people. 1+1=2
Government funds nearly two-thirds of U.S. health care costs: American Journal of Public Health study Contrary to popular perceptions, taxpayers fund 64 percent of U.S. health care, more public dollars per capita than the citizens of other nations – including those with universal health programs FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, January 21, 2016 Contact: Mark Almberg, PNHP communications director, (312) 782-6006, mark@pnhp.org Tax-funded expenditures accounted for 64.3 percent of U.S. health spending – about $1.9 trillion – in 2013,
I don't think you really understsnd that the subsidies are so that premiums for insurance stay affordable for the less wealthy. Course you can be forgiven cause Trump doesn't understand either.
No, and your statement was that by definition they are separate under capitalism. I gave you many examples where they interact in the capitalist system which apparently you are unable to refute. And of course I don't get it because as I demonstrated your claim is nonsense probably parroted from some right wing site thst you don't quite understand.
Did you actually understand what I said when I said; "That's a good thing and will SAVE you lots of money." I literally meant YOU, not me. YOU save lots of money by me opting out of Obamacare because according to my income level, I get subsidies and my monthly bill is around $50/month on a $585 monthly premium. So YOU pay the $535 balance. The good news for YOU is that I never use doctors. Instead I've learned to treat myself using extremely low cost alternative treatments. My deductibles are so high, it not practical for me to ever use my Obamacare plan except for a catastrophic health issue. So here's what you are paying for with Obamacare. You pay $535 x 12 = $6420 annually for me. I pay $50 x 12 = $600 annually. Then if I have a catastrophic health crisis costing $200,000 in a given year, the MAX I will pay is capped at about $6000. This leaves YOU to pay 194,000. So let's say I'm forced to be in Obamacare for 10 years and this crisis scenario above occurs in the10th year. My total payments would amount to $12,000 and YOU would be required to pay the balance of $188,000. But you also paid $6000 per year for 10 years = $60,000. So add that to your expenses. This is socialism. This is what YOU and others like you are asking for when you promote Obamacare. Have you ever actually run the numbers? Of course not. Parroting Obamacare talking points is so much easier because it takes very little thought. Ok, you can still redeem yourself here and gain some credibility. Using the same crisis scenario above, show me your analysis (the monetary amounts) of what would happen if I was to opt-out of Obamcare as Trump's plan would allow. --pete--
Awesome. Abandon modern medicine for herb-based healthcare. Great solution for the healthcare problem.
Go back and read the title of this thread. It has to do with SUBSIDIES. That's what makes it's a socialist system. Can you get SUBSIDIES for your home or auto insurance? Of course not. So my friend, who's coming from a point of ignorance now? To demonstrate my point, let's assume that YOU are middle income and I am low income. I have chosen the cheapest BRONZE plan offered to me, priced at $585/month. Based upon my low income, Obamcare directs me to pay $50/month and that means YOU PAY the $535 balance. Over a 10 year period, I pay $12,000 and YOU PAY $64,200. That's socialism and I'll be more than happy to accept your contributions. SUCKER --pete--
I've got news for you. I actually cured myself of chronic health problems that I had for over 5 years that none of my doctors or "modern medicine" was able to help me with. I did it all with proper diet & nutrition. As a matter of fact, I went against the dietitian's advise and within 1 month I was 90% cured. Don't get me wrong, "modern medicine" has it's place, but for most ailments any person with a high school education and the ability to read & comprehend what they read can discover how to care for themselves without resorting to visits to the doctor or hospital. So overall, I actually did better on my own than dealing with all the misdiagnosis and wasted time & money by using the doctors of modern medicine. --pete--
That includes subsidies. Most people are covered by employer based group plans, not medicare/Medicaid.
wrong if you get sick in Niger nobody is offering you a $20,000 operation. Do you understand? When they have MRI machines for example they are small cheap ones based on income of people. 1+1=2
so???????? subject here is that Trump is stopping the crony capitalist payoffs to health insurance companies and banksters as liberals want. You're a good liberal- right?
exactly capitalism is when govt and business are separate. Socialism, crony capitalism is when they are combined. Now do you understand?
obviously I didn't say they are separate. I said capitalism is when they are separate while socialism, crony capitalism is when they are combined. Too subtle for you?
If you can’t understand such basic economic principles such as income having no relevance to the cost of treatment, you have no business discussing the issue of healthcare.
