Trump: GOP Must Save Medicare, Social Security

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    Former President Donald Trump urged Republican lawmakers to prevent Democrats from digging into entitlement programs to pay for President Joe Biden's "reckless spending spree."
    Former President Donald Trump urged Republican lawmakers to prevent Democrats from digging into entitlement programs to pay for President Joe Biden's "reckless spending spree."

    Trump, in a 2024 presidential campaign video posted Friday on Truth Social, vowed to protect seniors and "hard-working American families" by saving Social Security and Medicare.

    "Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security to help pay for Joe Biden's reckless spending spree, which is more reckless than anybody's ever done or had in the history of our country," ….











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    Trump is right! We must save Medicare and social security from Democrats. Their excess spending and ballooning of the national debt put them at risk.
     
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    The democrat party and its wasteful spending is a clear and present danger to the financial viability of Medicare and Social Security.
     
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    The dem party is huge on wasteful spending. That is for sure.
     
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    This from the person who added more to the national debt than anyone else in modern history…
     
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    Prior to Covid he spent less than Obama during Obamas first 3 years.
     
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    ‘But, but, but….’

    The buck stops with the boss….
     
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    Are you suggesting that he spent too much money getting us through the national emergency that was the effects of the China virus here?
     
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    So, you must really be proud of all the spending let’s go Brandon has done…
     
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    I agree that social security and Medicare should be exempt from cuts as part of the debt ceiling since they are self funded through our direct premiums paid only to them.
     
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    They both spent more when international circumstances made it necessary. Obama took office after the financial crash and obviously Trump had to deal with COVID.

    But if you want a better comparison, compare Trump's first three years to Obama's second term when he wasn't coming right off that financial crisis. The debt increase was about the same.
     
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    Well, there you go again! It's the Republicans that are pushing for cuts to Social Security and Medicare, as we speak. That is the sticking point of negotiations to raise the Debt Limit. TRaitor tRump is at odds, with the bobble head big Mac's leading the Republican party now. Not that he really would stand up for anything if there weren't a buck in it for him.
     
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    A better comparison is their first years in office and Obamas recovery was natural, it was despite Obama in office, not because. And Trump spent less while having a better economy that only improved when he took office. A better economy, while spending less, reversing trends such as the lfpr vs unemployment.
     
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    Actually, President Biden's programs invest in AmeriCAN's and America; every time that's been done in the past it's been good for the AmeriCAN economy in the long run.
     
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    It is not a better comparison. Trump did not have a crisis to deal with until the last year of his term. Obama took office in the middle of one.

    Nobody is saying the economy would not have recovered without Obama. He had a marginal role in it just like Trump did in the economy when he was in office.
     
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    Thread win. Trump increased the deficit from $600 billion in Obama's last year to nearly $1 trillion, with full GOP control of Congress -- all BEFORE covid. Now, he pretends like he is interested in reigning in the deficit to protect SS and Medicare. Laughable.

    In any case, it is interesting that the Trump party government haters are so interested in keeping their SS and Medicare benefits. It shows that they are not interested in cutting government spending when it comes to their OWN benefits, they only want to cut those for the OTHERS, who they deem not deserving.
     
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    And it neglects that it was Democrats who were largely howling for a 'response'. Trump was damned if he didn't, and damned if he did. Because our left friends can employ double standards successfully. I don't even bemoan them for it, but rather to know your opponent is to know thyself in a competition.
     
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    You do realize those cuts will be universal, meaning even for those 'others who they deem not deserving'. The real issue is that the SS program is MUCH bigger then was intended in 1965, and even then Kennedy wanted to reform social security. The need for reform has lasted for over 40 years in American Politics, with no one willing to lift a finger. It's a bipartisan disaster that everyone owns.

    I've long suggested to break up and segment SS into smaller portions. There are those who are retirees who should get priority, and then there's those who are young and able, and shouldn't be retired. And a significant portion of the funds should go towards self-sufficient living for all those who would be able.
     
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    So you want to include the housing crisis that bush handed Obama in his debt that was signed by Bush but ignore the debt signed by trump

    Lol, typical con
     
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    Understood we need to reign in spending, but it is funny, not too long ago, Republicans were always bashing SS, now that Trump has spoken, it is now required. !!!
     
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    YOu do realize that every Congress has "borrowed" from the Social Security Trust Fund whether they were democrat or Republican. And you may want to go to Reagan and Bush Jr for starters. Even Trump did that with his save now, pay later on Social Security.

    Second, Trump is being vague here. There are members of the GOP who want to "privatize" social security and medicare in which would "save" the program in their mind. No it won't, at least not the way the GOP wants it done. When it comes to federal spending, the GOP is just as guilty as the Democratic party, hands down. It is just which programs each party likes to pay for and which ones they do not.
     
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    All Trump is doing is trying to get the Baby Boomers on his side again. Trump really does not care and the GOP will not listen to him, especially the Freedom Caucus in their new form of power in the House.
     
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    Too bad the 2X impeached liar in chief did not do so when he and R's had the control of the gov't for 2 yrs.
    More lying by the former impeached liar.
     
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    How do you break up and segment SS into smaller portions?

    Yes, Social Security was created in 1934, not 1965. In 1965, that was Medicare. Second, Social Security has changed over the years with the Social Security Supplemental Insurance, Social Security Disability Program, and the traditional "old age pension fund." It is also that more and more people have been added to the Social Security payroll. the biggest was in 1986 when the federal employees went from CERS to FERS. CERS was not subject to social security, much like the military. And then you have some other adjustments with 403b programs now allowing a choice into Social Security, but that is on a district level and not an individual level. And some, like foreign workers for instance, contribute to Social Security but cannot obtain its benefits until they become either LPRs or Citizens.
     
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    The first three years of Obama was either the great recession or recovering from the great recession. But keep in mind, the GOP controlled both house of Congress for 6 years of the 8 years of Obama's reign. Since budgets and deficits must originate in the House, care to guess who is at fault for that? it is not Obama or the DNC. Try the GOP here.

    For Trump, there was no recession, but if you look at employment and GDP, you can see. For employment, the last three years of Obama saw more jobs being created than the first three years, by about 1.2 million more. For GDP, they were pretty much the same except for one quarter in 2018 after the JCTA was passed. And that did not last very long, did it.

    https://money.com/trump-vs-obama-economy/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/05/trump-obama-economy/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...th-all-beat-trumps-best-year/?sh=359a6ee36ba6

    You may want to rethink that argument again.
     
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