Trump immigration policy and Islamic restoration...

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  1. ecco

    ecco Well-Known Member

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    What does "G-dlike" mean?
    You assert, with no justification, that "they" created Adam and Eve.
    And then go on with ..."if they also can and have and/ or will resurrect human life".
    IF!
    If
    there was no gravity, pigs could fly. What's your point.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pigs will soon be able to fly.... and they will produce wool like a sheep........
    if I remember one of the ancient books correctly.......
    I think it might have been the Book of Jubilees.......

    that was pretty much exactly when the Patrairch Esau stated he would be able to get along with Jacob / Yacob........

    So rest assured.... .pigs that produce wool..... and can fly........ are probably being planned........

    "Ask and ye shall receive!"

    Because the descendants of Esau......
    will soon get along astonishingly well with the descendants of Jacob / Yacob..........
     
  3. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The technological capability to genetically modify pigs... so that they produce wool.... and can fly.......
    would be somewhat "godlike" behavior for us humans.........

    Now taking a number of hot looking Israeli women out of Masada... .and some ordinary looking ones.......before the mass suicide.... into our time period......
    and letting them see stuff like this...... and for a few moments...... they might just be rather impressed by that........

    Especially the ones who had already read the ancient form of the Book of Jubilees........
     
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  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever seen Mark Taylor on video?

    At the nine minute mark in this interview it is stated that
    the media will begin to agree with President Trump.......
    I believe that this will happen when they see the beginning of
    the pacification of the Islamic nations.




    Mark Taylor "Enemy's Timeline Denied by The Most High" The Jim Bakker Show 4-4-17
     
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    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

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    Dennis, Mr, Tate, we've had a few agreeable exchanges, but I have to tell you that I dislike the format. Jim Bakker, 700 Club, et al., I don't like it. I'm gonna be snarky right now, hope you get the humor..

     
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  6. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That video is funny I have to admit.....


    If it were not for my gifted Pentecostal wife I probably would not like him either.

    I almost never listened to him until after Maria told me some stories about what she had seen in Ecuador.

    My wife......somehow or another was somehow told to fast and pray for me for 35 days.......
    three days / week for four weeks.... then seven days in a row for the fifth week.... .She drank only fruit juices and
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus woke her up early and got her to pray for me.......

    I was three thousand miles away experiencing peace of mind Shalom that blew my mind........

    Here is the guy in the Christian Bible who was most like me........


    Mark 5:15

    "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion,
    sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."

    So after she convinced me that some Pentecostals were truly gifted.... I began to watch some of their
    shows on TV or youtube.
     
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  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is along the line of what I suspected might emerge out of this.....

    http://thebonappetit.net/saudi-arabian-prince-inspired-trump-told-massive-secret/
    THIS SAUDI ARABIAN PRINCE WAS SO INSPIRED BY TRUMP THAT HE TOLD HIM A MASSIVE SECRET

    .....
     
  8. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK.....this is certainly surprising...... Some of the most powerful evangelists who will be sent to the Islamic nations........ will come from Russia.


     
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    And don't you find it strange that it is getting to that point? For the longest time, God seemed fine and okay with how the world was running. He didn't get too involved so it seemed. Now, today, you have talks about religious wars again.. Religious conquests... And as it was said in the very first post of this thread, it didn't come about since 200 years ago.. Not even in the years 200 years ago were wars being fought for women genital mutilation. 200 years ago, there were no genocides being carried out. 200 years ago, there was no Syrian Christian persecution. Christians were flourishing in Syria 200 years ago. But today, since after the time of, 200 years ago, people are jumping on other people's backs for doing with their women as they want.. People are jumping on the backs of people who don't want to get involved in religious wars. People are jumping on the backs of those who want Syrian Christians left alone. People are jumping on the backs of those who want the traditions that were around 200 years ago... 200 years ago, there were more Kingdoms with a Monarch than there was Democracy in the world. Even the places where 'terrors' are coming out of, 200 years ago, were Kingdoms with Monarchs... Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Pakistan, Lybia, Somalia, France, England, etc... they were all Kingdoms with a King or Queen..

    Today, a fake transcript with fake signatures, could secure you a seat as Ruler or Leader or President of an entire Country. Then, you needed to be blood born in order to rule.

    Today, you can practice open heart surgery, in an office, with no Medical License. Today, anybody can be the 'expert' on a matter. All anyone needs to show is some document saying you graduated from some school with some degree to validate the claims that you are well learned and well advised and/or well skilled. Even today, you can get a fake Electrician's paper showing you completed your journeyman's training to get a job as a Master Electrician.. And you know what kind of monies they can rake in monthly, right?

    When it gets to this level, who will be upright and who will be crooks? And who will be able to tell any difference between 2 persons who dress alike?

    If people look forward to living in a time such as these, well.. I would honestly have to say that being non-upright might be the easier way to survive than being the upright one... Keep in mind also that the non upright ones enjoy bringing upright ones down from being upright. Attacks to every upright individual will occur to any person, Leader or not. And at that time, what is going to happen... People will begin living for themselves the way they want...

    And no one will be able to put the blame on anything that was happening or occurring and being practiced back, 200 years ago, or so... Everything was more 'fine', 200 years ago, than it was contentious to begin wars over. But female mutilation was around.. In fact, most of the mothers to the daughters were the ones who prepared their daughters for such a time.. Maybe it had to do with population control?? I definitely AM NOT going to tell an entire family how to live their lives when they are fine just the way they are. Besides, I think female mutilation occurs in some parts of Africa and some parts of the Middle East, not in the U.S. What concern is how they live in Africa or the Middle East with me? I can't even speak their language. They have their own ways of doing things. But with the introduction of Democracy into those lands, all Democrats and Republicans and Liberals and Conservatives have a right to be in those lands also.

    We have to remember that they did not ask for Democracy. Nor were they readily inclined in accepting Democracy. They had to accept Democracy through reluctance and much hesitation and sometimes, even because of force.

    And if it ever gets to a part in time where people are not defended by the established Laws of the land, they will have to learn how to defend for themselves with whatever means they can, if they want to survive and live, on a strange piece of Land with some really strange people..
     
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    Now, now, it is hard to distill bibble babble into coherent thought.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It could perhaps be of some considerable consolation to you to read that G-d.......
    does not look at religion quite the way that we do...... As a matter of fact.... G-d attained
    "Cyrus Consciousness" even before the most recent Big Bang or Big Flash........
    so since religion evolves into a scary creature that
    is astoundingly selfish and immature..... G-d
    uses religion to test each and every one of us to see if we can
    be more spiritually and emotionally mature than three year olds.

    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes..... indeed it is......
    so I will attempt to write plainly that Islam, when ten or twenty percent of Muslims are fully restored.....
    they will not view either Judaism or Christianity as competitors........
    but as more like a mother and a grandmother...............

    Christianity was in a way the mother of Islam for a number of reasons......
    especially the Gnostic Messianic Judaism of the first and second centuries that
    the Prophet Muhammad, (peace be upon him)..... seemed to have found advisors who
    knew some of the original teachings of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that the pagan
    Christian church suppressed........

    Judaism is like a grand mother to Islam.......
    both mother and grandmother are flawed.... because they are made up of humans.....

    but fully restored Muslims will even support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple
    exactly as predicted in Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48..... actually.........

    significantly restored Christians and Muslims will play a huge role in laying the political
    ground for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple and two logical years for that to
    happen in are 2030 and 2070..... I prefer 2030............

    Somewhat restored Christians and Muslims should support the return of the remains of
    Rabbi Nachman from the Ukraine to Israel somewhere because his teachings can lead
    to a wonderful restoration of true Judaism as understood by Moses, Elijah, King David.....
    and I believe by the Baal Shem Tov and of course Rabbi Nachman.
     
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    But.... scientists are human.......
    and humans want to think of themselves as the most powerful and influential beings in the universe.

    We cling to this almost obvious fallacy.... in spite of great evidence to the contrary!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...begin-in-matter-or-fundamental-energy.465052/

    Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/


    I actually do believe in evolution but I think that anybody who would dogmatically limit evolution to our four dimensional space time continuum lacks basic mathematical aptitude.

    Back in the 1990's I read several articles on GUT and string theory. Later on I read Stephen Hawking's Universe. in his chapter The Anthropic Principle he speculated that perhaps there were an infinite number of unsuccessful universes out there somewhere in which was no life due to the fact that electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force were not properly tuned for life as we know it. It seems obvious to me that another possibility is that the first intelligent life form might be composed of energy. Probably a fundamental energy such as SuperForce or Super Energetic Matter which may be the common denominator for all four forces active in our fourth space time dimensional continuum.

    13.72 billion years is roughly equal to ZERO time when compared with eternity. If fundamental energy would always have existed, as I assume Dr. Hawking seems to believe due to his suspicion of their having been an infinite number of unsuccessful universes and probably Big Bang + Grand Collapses, then if evolutionary theory could be expanded to have occurred within infinite time as opposed to limiting abiogenesis and evolution to abouit 4.5 billion years than you increase the probability of evolution being possible by essentially an infinite factor! I do believe in evolution occurring, but I suspect that perhaps 99% of evolution probably occurred before our Big Bang which was probably planned and choreographed by the Life Form/life forms that would probably be composed of fundamental energy.

    Is evolution more probable to have occurred within 13 billion years or within eternity?

    I must admit that these ideas about invisible higher space time dimensions sure does remind me of what many people who have a brush with death report.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A dogmatic belief in Atheism.........
    produces PESSIMISM.......... even taking one or two steps closer to belief in some sort of greater purposes being worked out here below..........
    tends to produce greater and greater and greater levels of OPTIMISM!

    Please notice what former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. concludes after his near death experience:

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04


    Even the beginning of belief in a higher purpose or.....purposes.........
    shifts our mentality out of excessive worry about a nuclear holocaust toward optimism..........
    which tends to increase the valuation that we place on human life.......
    and all life for that matter........

    which tends to increase the value that we place on water, air and LAND!

    Religion was used to control the masses throughout the dark ages.... but Atheism was used to
    cause the ignorant masses to place lower and lower and lower valuation on their own lives......
    on the TIME....... on the lives of animals and other life forms........ as well as on LAND!

    It really all comes back to economics and to MONEY!




    Did P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau save the world environment?


     
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    Ecclesiastes 8:11 "Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the children of man is fully set to do evil."

    Applying this principle in immigration.... will eventually work wonders.
     

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