Trump yesterday dissed the House-passed healthcare bill: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/...-house-republicans-health-bill-mean.html?_r=0 This is the SAME health-care bill that Trump lavishly praised a month ago when he signed it: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...t-trump-healthcare-vote-house-representatives Trump's quotes about the plan during the signing: "This is a great plan" (three times) "So what we have is something very, very incredibly well-crafted." "We want to brag about the plan." "We’ve come up with a really incredible healthcare plan." So here is Trump's history on the health-care bill: He said he would replace Obamacare with a bill that covered everyone, didn't touch Medicaid, reduced deductibles and cut costs. The House bill does the OPPOSITE: it takes coverage away from 24 million people, cuts Medicaid, would raise deductibles, and costs MORE. Trump embraced the bill, saying it did everything he wanted. Which is either incredibly ignorant, or a massive lie. Trump signed the bill, calling it a "great" and "incredibly well-crafted" plan. Trump now calls the bill "mean". Why should anyone believe a word that idiot says?
The global entrepreneur, billionaire who beat you and yours, hands down, in over 30 states..."idiot".... You get funnier every day. Now you're bitching because he wants to make sure as many people as possible are covered. Why, that bastard.
The bill doesn't take coverage away from anyone good grief the cbo based their numbers and included in their 23mil number, people that don't currently have insurance you can't lose something you don't have. They assumed they would eventually get insurance under obamacare but not under the republican plan. They also included those would get obama care by future medicaid expansion. Finally they based that number off 21 million being added under obamacare when it's only added 10 million. That would be like me saying over 2mil have had their coverage taken away this year under the ACA because they dropped out. It turns Medicaid into a state grant and let's them work out how to be distributed, Maine figured it out most states will as well. What it doesn't do is promise states he it'll cost you 145 million then when the tab comes in at 175 the state is on the hook even though the ACA is setting the policy, see Alaska or Cali for reference. No way to make it up except tax somebody and everybody. Oh and the beauty of the current ACA the states have to pick up more and more of the tab as the years roll on. You have no evidence that the new healthcare bill will raise deductibles and even the cbo says the new bills actions will indeed lower cost but it will take a couple years to be fully active. A good bill has things people like and don't like, I don't trust the NYT report one bit, funny your not hearing senators saying he said that and if so what the context was or what he was even talking about. Trump clearly said he wanted the senate to look at it and fix potential problems.
Here is the CBO report: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/americanhealthcareact.pdf 14 million people would become uninsured immediately, due to a combination of repealing the individual mandate, and unaffordable premiums from allowing insurers to discriminate against the elderly, the sick, and those with lapses in coverage. Another 14 million people would be either dropped from Medicaid or prevented from enrolling in the future. Yes, some of that is future enrollees. But a good chunk of it is current enrollees, since the CBO envisions some states rolling back their Medicaid expansions, because the bill also changes the federal share of that expansion cost, capping it and forcing the states to make up the difference. Right now, states with Medicaid expansions cover about 50% of the population; CBO estimates that will drop to 30% by 2026. That means that 40% of people who gained insurance coverage through the Medicaid expansion will lose it. So yes, tens of millions of people who currently have coverage will lose it under the House plan. The CBO says the bill will lower average PREMIUMS in the long run, but that is largely by allowing the sort of craptastic policies that ACA outlaws. There are two ways you get to lower premiums in that scenario: offer less coverage, or offer higher deductibles. The CBO expects both to happen. Because of plans’ lower average actuarial values, CBO and JCT expect that individuals’ cost-sharing payments, including deductibles, in the nongroup market would tend to be higher than those anticipated under current law. In addition, cost-sharing subsidies would be repealed in 2020, significantly increasing out-of-pocket costs for nongroup insurance for many lower-income enrollees. This is true. What does that have to do with the AHCA? It is a craptastic bill, not a good one. Okay. On the other hand, we have the same report coming from multiple sources. The Associated Press actually broke the story, citing two sources: https://apnews.com/b5383189b4dc4dea94890f13846c2639 The NYT independently confirmed it, quoting FOUR congressional aides. CNN independently confirmed it with THREE of their own sources. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-senators-health-care-white-house-meeting/index.html CBS confirmed with its own source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-calls-house-version-of-health-care-bill-mean/ ABC gets Sen. John Thune essentially confirming it: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-house-health-care-bill/story?id=48018595 I think you have no leg to stand on as far as simply not believing it's true. You also don't hear them saying the report is wrong. In fact, the GOP's reaction to the story indicates it is true, since everyone involved, including senators who were at the meeting, are taking it at face value. Where did he clearly say that, when you disbelieve the sources who say he called it "mean"?
So in your own post you point blank said people would choose not to participate in healthcare because there is no mandate. Yes older people may be affected, we will see what the senate does, but don't forget they also have medicare. Obamacare promised it would cover 20+ million and yet it only added 10mill as of 2016. It's lost another 2 million this year so does that mean obamacare doesn't cover them, no it means they choose to pay the tax vs the ridiculous premiums with stupid high deductibles. Premiums will go down for most because they don't need all of the things Obamacare mandated like maternal! Patient based healthcare allows you to choose the type of coverage you want not what the government says you need. On Medicaid the states decide for their people that's a good thing, states have a tendency to do a better job, see Maine as an example.
