Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And again ignoring the question about Liz Cheney being a “war hawk”. I mean it is not as if we don’t have evidence from past circumstances when Trumps rhetoric has triggered violence against another
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  2. Bowerbird

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    Ooooh! I am going to enjoy this little exercise in “sane washing” but what lies?
     
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    And there is no evidence Liz Cheney EVER promoted warfare
     
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    Bingo! You just discovered very important fact:
    For many Democrats (including me, even I am not a Democrat) this does not sound like an order to kill Trump, but for many Trump supporters it does
    If the same was said by Trump about Biden for many Democrats this does sound like an order to kill Biden, but for many many Trump supporters (including me, even I am not a Republican) it does not.
     
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    Wow, I almost swallowed OP's BS sandwich. I heard what he said with NO SPIN and NO EDITS and he basically was saying she wouldn't like if she was in that kind of a deadly situation and how easily they send troops off to die.
    OP you should retract your bogus BS fibbing thread ASAP!
    HOLY LIES!!!!
     
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    They were not sent there to fight. There was no war to fight in.
     
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    So did many people during the Vietnam War. It was a terrible war fought for a bad reason.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    Trump is channeling the ambitions of extreme right males who don't understand their MAGA hero has done nothing for them.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    Biden got deferments because he had children. Trump played the bone spurs angle.

    Anyone with $500 ($5,000 today) could hire a lawyer to get them out.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    That's what Trump says.
    I'm pretty sure he did.
    It would have been cheaper to hire a draft lawyer.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    You got four years of student draft deferments to get through college. No doubt the Orange Oaf used those and then went the bone spurs route.
     
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    So Trump says Harris is a war hawk, the media (as we've learned will always do) spin his statement to give it a totally different meaning. Liberals twirl and spew. Conservatives shake their head and wonder if the media can be any more dishonest with us.

    And out of all this Golem arrives at the conclusion that trump's speech is somehow code to his followers to commit violence on .......... someone. As a loyal, if not totally enthusiastic trump supporter, you'd think I would have gotten my secret decoder ring by now. I haven't. Boogers.

    Apparently, the liberal "double think" is that Trump has even been calling on violence to be aimed at trump himself. See, trump holds a distinction of sorts; he's the only president in modern times who has survived not one, but two assassination attempts and incredibly, the left still tries to blame his own followers, and his "hate speech".

    And meanwhile they're shouting "TRUMP IS HITLER!!"

    Yes, they really do think we're that stupid.
     
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    Its not sposed to 'flatter' him. Its meant to demonize warmongering.
     
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    TODAY’S #JOURNALISM: As election nears, a final torrent of BS.

    The MSM lies constantly.

    The liberal media’s distortion of Trump’s Liz Cheney comments exposes how panicked they are.

    'So now Donald Trump wants to kill Liz Cheney? Worse, he wants to drag her before a firing squad. Is there no end to this man’s wickedness?'

    'The Lefty web and progressive media are awash with anguished commentary on Trump’s latest dream of violence. “Trump fantasizes about guns pointed at Liz Cheney’s face”, pants an irate Rolling Stone. Trump has “told a crowd” that “Liz Cheney should have guns ‘trained on her face’”, yelps Vanity Fair. He wants “nine barrels shooting” at her, cries Politico.'

    'There’s only one problem with this vision of Trump as such a lunatic liability that he fancies hauling poor Liz Cheney off for execution – it is completely untrue. It is undiluted poppycock.'

    'What Trump actually did was criticize Cheney’s pro-militarist streak. In a sit-down chat with Tucker Carlson in Arizona, he laid into her “war hawk” tendencies. And he wondered out loud – in his usual, unfiltered language – how she would feel about war if she was in the thick of one herself.'

    Exactly. Sound wondering many of us have done ourselves about Chicken Hawks.
     
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    A lot of fathers go off to war. I guess not the privileged ones
     
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    Even Bill Maher finds this disgusting.

    Bill Maher Rips Media for Liz Cheney Firing Squad Hoax: ‘Just Don’t Lie to Me.’

    'Left-wing comedian Bill Maher tore into the corporate media during his Real Time Overtime segment for lying about Donald Trump calling for Liz Cheney to be executed.'

    Lying.

    “I woke up to the headline ‘Donald Trump had called for a firing squad for Liz Cheney,’ said Maher, adding, “and this is what I really don’t like about the media — No, he didn’t.”

    Maher goes on to explain what Trump clearly said. “He’s criticizing her for being a war hawk. I mean she is Dick Cheney’s daughter.” Maher then read Trump’s full and unambiguous quote. Here it is:

    'Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. Let’s see how she feels about it, you know when the guns are trained on her face. You know, they’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington, in a nice building saying, “Oh, gee, well, let’s send — let’s send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.”

    “Just to be clear,” Maher continued, “this is exactly what hippies always said. This is exactly what peaceniks always said. [Trump is saying], ‘You know what, it’s very easy to sit in your building and send young men to die.’”

    He then said to the media, “Just don’t lie to me. I don’t like Donald Trump. Don’t lie to me and tell me he wants her in front of a firing squad. He was saying something that … again, sounds like what hippies used to say.”

    Exactly, Donald Trump is a former Democrat. This was a common Democrat observation before they joined the Military Industrial Complex of Neoncon Chicken Hawks.
     
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    Not in the 1960's, He was pretty heavy as it was and every time he was supposed to report for his physical he'd spend the week or two before eating fried chicken every night and afternoon and chicken fried stake every morning and by the time he went down there his normal 6'2' and 230 would be closer to 325. And he'd come back with a temporary deferment good for another year of college. Haven't seen him or his room mate in nearly sixty years,
     
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    Well, this topic looks rather refuted

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    Another deflection which doesn't negate the original point.

    Got more?
     
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    Call it a deflection, if you like. But if they forbid all the people who had deferments during the Vietnam war, there would not be many of them running for public office.

    By the way, Biden also had deferments.
     
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    Yeah, right: Trump's rhetoric, on numerous occasion, incited violence or nefarious acts, to wit, the...

    Threats Against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer: Trump's inflammatory rhetoric led his supporters to conspire to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer. They were subsequently indicted and criminally prosecuted.

    False Statements About Haitian Americans and Immigrants in Ohio: Trump claimed they were "stealing pets, eating cats, and eating dogs," resulting in threats, assaults, and bomb threats against Haitian Americans and immigrants.

    Lies About FEMA Workers in North Carolina: Trump falsely claimed FEMA workers were behaving improperly, prompting some of his supporters to arm themselves and go “hunting FEMA workers.”

    Statement About Mike Pence on January 6, 2021: Trump said Pence "didn't have the courage" to keep him in power, leading supporters to hunt for Pence and chant "Hang Mike Pence."

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    Election Fraud Claims and Threats Against Election Officials: Trump's baseless claims fueled threats and harassment against election workers and officials nationwide, forcing some to go into hiding.

    Encouragement to "Fight Like Hell" on January 6: This rhetoric led supporters to attack law enforcement officers during the Capitol riots, noting that it was a year long swelling of rage from Trump's inculcating to his base at ever rally that 'The only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election" spoken before any ballot was cast, creating the juggernaut of the 'Stop The Steal" rage on 1/6.

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    Harassment of Journalists and Media Outlets: Trump’s continuous labeling of the media as the “enemy of the people” resulted in threats, bomb scares, and physical intimidation of journalists by his supporters.
     
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    And once again, a liberal proves my point just by posting a rebuttal.
    Thanks, Patricio!
     
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    We're not warmongering. We're protecting our way of life with its free expression.

    You're sidling up to the forces of darkness with Putin and Xi Jinping.
     

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