Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

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  1. Shutcie

    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tap dance???!!
    After your fake outrage was exposed as fake as the closely edited quote you put on trump.

    Your desperation is showing and it stinks like terror.
     
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    No we know some one made up some **** from 50 years ago. Not every operation in a warzone requires presidential approval and the troops were already there sent by President Dither.
     
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    Sorry I wasn't talking about Trump just a guy I knew in college as an example. What Trump did even if it was fake is less egregious that what Clinton and others did. The point is that the old chicken hawk charge the leftist use to trot out all the time fits Harris Biden far better than it does Trump.
     
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    You know better than to ask.
     
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    The context of our current reality.
    Cut the crap.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    ""We know the bonespurs were fake from the testimony of the doctor's daughters who told us they were fake.""

    Show us the testimony @Patricio Da Silva of hearsay evidence of two daughters after their father died... No paper evidence has been found to help corroborate the version of events described by the Braunstein family...

    but let me help you out... there was never a testimony... this is just another of the unverified story that your fake NYT puts out...the two shared the family’s account for the first time publicly when contacted by The New York Times. But her "comment" to the fake NYT was "“But did he examine him? I don’t know,” she said."

    https://archive.ph/7wbQK

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    Not really. Continuing on in already established war/conflict zones is one thing, advocating we open up a whole new war front with a near peer enemy is a whole other ball game. Under Trumps Administration no new theaters of operation were established, especially no large scale ones the way the likes of Cheney, Graham, Haley, etc are advocating for. Now if Trump gets elected and ends up advocating a US invasion of Iran or something then yes he will 100% be a hypocrite and I'll be the first one to call his ass out on it.
     
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    It'll never happen obviously, that's why these folks are so quick to beat the war drums. Fighting wars is easy when you don't have to do the fighting yourself. It's like that old Civil War trope. "I've sacrificed 3 of my brothers for this war and I'm willing to sacrifice my sons in law too!"

    Perhaps I'm just getting more cynical the older I get but I look around the world and see all this crap going on and I genuinely just do not see a valid justification that I should go possibly die for any of this.
     
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    It is more than just insinuating using rifles to fire on Liz Chaney, it is a blunt threat, "LETS SHOOT AT HER FACE!"

    Let's do a little psychoanalysis of this strange, surreal remark.

    "Let's put her [Cheney] with a rifle standing there with 9 barrels shooting at her. Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."

    This reads as a surreal fever dream because it does not make rational or logical sense. If you put somebody into battle with a rifle to defend themself, they would be in combat, not "standing there with 9 barrels shooting" at them. This surreal dream is because of his recent stress. He is afraid of losing the election, and the extreme consequences of that. He fears being prosecuted and sentenced for his various crimes, both civil and criminal. He will be in courts, often, until he dies of old age, many years from now. That is the probable torture he correctly envisions for himself. He is under intense psychic stress and is about to snap.

    Putting somebody into battle, in a war, is not a situation where "9 barrels are shooting" at anybody. That is a firing squad of 9 executioners. Trump's dream leaps from the thought of soldiers going into battle, into his chosen fantasy of a firing squad executing his enemy from within, Liz, but the firing squad is shooting at her FACE." That is not normal. Firing squads usually shoot at the heart. He said "Let's" or
    "LET US...SHOOT AT...HER FACE!" This relates to his recent assassination attempt. An AR was trained on his FACE. This is part of his fever dream. Soldiers going into battle with their rifle, and 9 barrels shooting at Trump's face.

    But he has a history of threats. On Jan 6 he said,
    "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done."

    MOB: "HANG MIKE PENCE!!"

    Trump Threatens Liz Cheney: Here Are The Implications In Trump's Three Pending Criminal Cases
     
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    I don't blame you. I am an Army vet from the 70's. My son is a Purple Heart Marine combat vet (Iraq and Afghanistan). I served, but not in combat. My son, however, has been to hell and back for this country of ours. And for what? Tonight I had a beer with a Purple Heart Viet Nam vet who is a friend of mine. And all those who died and were wounded in that war .... for what?

    I've always supported my country in times of war. And I would defend her shores to the death.

    But now, at age 69, I'm tired and intolerant of unnecessary wars. I honestly don't give a **** about the rest of the world. They can all destroy themselves for all I care. I want our cowardly, self-serving politicians to leave our young people out of their f--king wars. If those politicians and generals think war is such a nifty idea, I'll donate my rifle to them, and they can lead the way.

    Yeah, I like that. Politicians first, generals second, on down the line. Privates and PFC's stay home and protect our shores.

    We would find out real quick how badass these warhawks in Congress really are. Those young people who serve are the best of us. Those critters in Congress are the worst of us. So why not send them instead?
     
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    The silly game we play... when liberals... yet again.... misinterpret Trump for what he literally DOES NOT SAY..
     
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    Putin can start WW3 whenever he chooses. We quite literally can't stop him. Would you allow him to dominate us?
     
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    Didn't he tell you that he's at war with the West?
     
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    No.

    We could de-escalate.

    What does Russian-Ukrainian separatists have to do with dominating the US?

    ...or do you think Russia actually poses a territorial threat to the US or NATO?
     
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    How could we de-escalate?
    YES! Poland and Finland are threatened in their entire existence and even more the three Balitc countries. Don't you watch the news?
     
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    By not getting involved in the affairs of nations we're not allied with. Or, since we already have, by using our influence to broker peace between them.

    Poland and Finland are actually our allies. If Russia goes to war against them, Russia goes to war against us.

    ...which is why it won't.

    And no, I tend to not watch the news, because the news broadcasts senseless corporate propaganda like 'Russia will attack Poland and Finland if we don't defend Ukraine!' in order to keep us buying billions of dollars of military hardware to keep ethnic Russians from seceding from Ukraine, a civil war that we have no business interfering with.
     
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    This is no civil war, this is an imperialistic, aggressive war of a totalitarian regime against a,souverain, free country.

    And it is, as Putin himself has said, a proxy war against the western style of living.

    Would you call the invasion of the Baltic countries a civil war, too?
     
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    Isolationism. We face determined, amoral opponents in China, Russia, Iran, and radical Muslims. We can't survive without trading partners and you're supporting a guy who thinks we can go it alone. He tried that with Chins on trade and failed.
    The weakness you would inflict on us might bring on the very conflict you're hoping to avoid. It damn near cost us WW2.
    Try to be realistic.
     
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    We aren't fighting. All we can do is withhold support for the Ukraine and that might encourage Russia to try to overrun Eastern Europe before the EU nations are able to defend themselves.
    Russian-Ukrainian separatists? Who exactly are you talking about?
    They do.
     
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    You mean CHENEY. Trump can say she's a war hawk. What he should NOT say is "Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her...."

    Either Trump is sending a signal to his MAGA extremists, or he hasn't LEARNED that there are NUTS in his movement that will take this literally if they get a chance.

    Only those two possibilities exist. And either one of them (pushing violence or "he's too stupid to know better"... your choice) disqualifies him to be President of the United States.

    In either case it makes NO difference what he "meant". It's what he SAID and to WHO he's saying it.
     
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    Elect Trump, that's how.
    He says he could end the war in one day.
    Harris?
    Her answer is more foreign aid, missiles and tanks.
    Hardly a de-escalation policy.

    Now. You might choose not to believe Trump.
    You probably even hate the man.
    But he's the best hope, isn't he?
     
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    That is not an argument, and my concern for the nation, to disallow a criminal, conman, fraudster, sex abusing despicable human being from occupying the oval office is shared by a majority of the electorate.

    So....

    I regret to inform you that there is no context in which a person who is fit for the office would have said what Trump said

    None.
     
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    But the only people twirling and peeing on themselves are the liberals who choose to interpret Trump's words their way. And they do it every time. Trump can say good morning and by the time MSNBC reports it, he said the world is ending this morning.

    Trump made no suggestion to anyone to shoot Cheney. That's the liberal interpretation. So, if some whack job goes after Cheney it will be on liberals, not trump. Course, the democrats should be about done with Cheney, so it would be a way to get rid of her besides tossing her under the bus with Ford, and Feinstein and brandon.

    Wouldn't it?
     
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    Yes, Trump will give Ukraine to Putin, in order to 'end the war'. That's called 'appeasement'.

    Yes, we experienced the fruits of a similar approach to evil by British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain who pursued appeasement with Nazi Germany. Appeasement allowed Hitler to expand unchecked, leading directly to the outbreak of World War II.

    It is of a great strategic interest for the US to aid Ukraine to maintain it's sovereignty, other dictatorships are watching, and if we appease Putin, China will be emboldened to attack Taiwan. Why is Taiwan important? Google it. Taiwan controls the computer chip industry (which is why Biden got the CHIPS act passed, to move America away from being dependent on Taiwan for computer chips. ).

    This is one of the many reasons Trump is a threat to US National Security.
     
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