Trump is a bad person. Why would anybody vote for him?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well.... I don't know about that. I for one am having loads of fun.

    But let's see what it is I "interpreted"...

    So one of the main reasons why you vote for Trump is because somebody (an anonymous person) told you that Trump is a "convicted rapist"?
     
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    you just dont' get it do you. Trump haters constantly post lies about Trump. Trump haters generally support policies many of us on the right despise
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure I do. Your refusal to answer can ONLY be interpreted to mean "yes"

    Of course, we all know that's just an excuse, though.
     
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    It's not just the left, many "Republicans", many of whom were former tRaitor tRump supporters recognize that he is an existential threat to our Republic.
    In this election he has no polices except to get reelected to avoid prison and to exact retribution on those that have opposed him.
    There is nothing nebulous about his failure to effectively deal with the COVID pandemic. Which because of his failed response turned into a health and economic crisis for all Americans like nothing we've ever faced before. Instead of meeting it head on he tried to obfuscate the seriousness of the threat we all faced. He was more concerned with how it would affect his campaign that what it would do, and did, to our Untied States.

    His constant lies and daily divisiveness that culminated in the near end of our Constitutional government when Thousands of manic sycophants attacked OUR Capitol. Resulting in millions of dollars in damage, 5 deaths, 144 ++ Capitol Police being sent to the hospital, some with career ending injuries and 4 suicides because they couldn't accept that a President of The United States would precipitate the carnage they tried to defend against. He went so far as to tweet about how VP Pence had failed him as his supporters scoured the Capitol looking to hand the VP.
    Not really, they are proving themselves to be politically motivated and biased.
    He certainly has, he has been ordered and even fined for violent speech against those charged with prosecuting his crimes.
    Much of the violence during the BLM protests was instigated by RW anarchist radicals that tRaitor tRump egged on in his speeches to the Nation about the "Floyed demonstrations".
    He pushes lies about his election loss and indictments.
    He definitely uses race in every speech he makes to pit American's against each other and gain their support.
     
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    It's not about Trump and never has been. It's his supporters. They threw their morals and values completely out the window when they enabled his behavior. They think it's ok to grab women by the pu$$y. They're fine with calling people names like a bunch of school children. They're content with dehumanizing others. They cheer when he calls over half of Americans the enemy. They applaud his praise of dictators from Russia, China, and N. Korea. They celebrate the attack on our Capitol and democratic process.
     
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    Would you tell a lie about Trump you knew was a lie for what you felt "was for the greater good"?
     
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    Cheese and rice. :shock:

    You would vote for the President of the United States to spite someone else? :eyepopping:

    That says a lot about the maturity level of a tRaitor tRump supporter.
     
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    Noone Well-Known Member

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    No, AbsaByGodLutely NOT.

    But then again ... why would I have to.
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    It isn’t necessary. Trump provides mountains of material.

    Trump’s whole life has been one big lie, and the vulgar tabloid cartoon character Trump nation worships is the biggest lie of all.
     
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    Do your "groups" have the ability to see the future? They can have an opinion about what Trump will do in the future, and you are free to take it for gospel, but the past proves he is a populist, and populists by definition will shift their stance based on popular opinion. When popular opinion changes, he will change accordingly to appease them. Why do you think he changed his view on abortion for the 2nd time in a matter of few months? Because he looked at the polls and realized his stance was not in line with popular opinion. Why do you think he was quick to ban bump-stocks? Because of popular opinion.
     
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    Your problem is that most of what people post about your lord and savior are true. And easy to document.

    You just want to keep pretending that isn’t so.
     
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    Strange but intriguing question. I can't think of a single hypothetical instance in which lying about Trump would be "for the greater good". So my answer, at least in principle, would have to be no. However, you might come up with some scenario in which, for example, lying to make Trump look "good" might save somebody's life.
     
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    ‘Just watch how he always tries to take both sides whenever an issue is coming to a head.

    It stems from his fear of losing. So he takes all sides in the crunch so he can declare victory when the time comes no matter what the outcome.

    His pattern of bragging about being the one who ended Roe v Wade, followed by his confusing word salad remarks since then are a good case in point.

    Oh, and it really IS easy to predict what Trump will do.
     
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    That's what populism is all about. They do not have principles, they only follow the popular opinion and say whatever is popular at any given time

    Yes. He will do whatever is popular. I'm not saying popular opinion will turn against guns, but IF is does, then he will flip into being pro-control in a heart beat. Its amazing that seemingly smart people fall for his BS every time. Look at the banks who gave him millions of dollars after believing his lies. People tend to get too "blue-eyed" about their political leaders.

    blue-eyed
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/blue-eyed
    having or representing childlike innocence.
     
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    Yes. 2 of her 3 books were published before Joe was president.

    Hey, did you get your Trump Bible, or those nice gold sneakers ;)
     
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    None so blind as those who will not see. That's a choice- to ignore facts, and fabricate alternate realities... They thrive, they feed- on hate. And that does not describe the right or the people working to improve the nation.

    MAGA is not about Trump. It's about America, the fight for dignity, honor, the preservation of freedom and the defeat of corruption. This is an ongoing battle- so long as there are people willing to lean on and feed off others, sell the future out to satisfy them today.... it will continue.

    Trump- is only a voice, a messenger for that MAGA objective. When he's gone, the message will continue.... and the haters of that goal will find a new scapegoat to blame, to distract attention from what they are.
     
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    So you're saying you have a dog with a handled harness and use a white cane.
    It's about tRaitor tRump and his constant lies.
    You're talking about you're talking about tRaitor tRump and his crowd, the 1% that want everything and don't give a **** about anyone but themselves.
    Which for this year is getting reelected and getting out of jail free.
    You may be right or the tRaitor tRump supporting haters may just crawl back under the rock they came from.
     
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    Nope the opinion of leftists regarding Trump. Trump isn't messiah just a place holder in the war against leftist tyranny.
     
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    Per usual every thing wrong.
     
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    Do you believe Trump intended to separate 2000 children from the parents forever? Do you believe that Biden intended for some of the 85,000 lost children be forced into prostitution or slavery?

    I would like to make America great again. If that makes me a MAGA, I am proud to be on this side of the fence. If being a MAGA makes me want to support Trump, I am not a MAGA.

    My motto is simple. "America First.". Try it sometime, you might like it.
     
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    well, let’s compare that with reality.

    First of all, there is no maga without Trump. His open bigotry, his corruption, his parochial world view are old tropes that go back to the days of Charles Lindberg, Strom Thurmond and George Wallace. So, youare correct as far as that goes.

    Trump isn’t about “dignity or honor”. He never had either, and would not find virtues useful.

    No man that threatens to jail his political opponents, attack and belittles the press, and claims he wants to be a dictator gives a tinker’s damn about freedom.

    And Trump and his cronies are poster children for corruption.

    Only a fool would think of a man who just held an elaborate fundraiser littered with bankers, hedge fund guys,and the Wall Street crowd, would even think that Trump sees corruption as anything other than a business opportunity for himself.

    At bottom, Trump’s lack of character, integrity, honesty, or common decency are all on open display every day.

    ‘Trump nation worships all of it.
     
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    He isn’t interested in fighting tyranny.

    Jan 6th was not about that.
     
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    No It was to shut down the legitimate challenges to the election and it succeeded,
     
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    I respect the consensus of conservative Republicans who served in the Trump administration and openly acknowledge the threat he and his cult now pose to America. While differing with them in many respects, I recognize that Barr, Kelly, Bolton, et al are motivated by patriotism, not "hate."

     
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    No, he just intended to torture them. Trump can't visualize anything that happens beyond 2 weeks in the future. "Forever" is way beyond his capabilities.
     
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