Trump is Draining Republicans of Donations

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Trump is burning through tens of millions in campaign donations on trying to keep himself out of PRISON.

    How do Republicans not notice how seriously this is skewing their ability to select rational candidates?

    Donations Trump directly controls plus those of PACs dedicated to him have brought in $67 million in the first half of this year.

    But, during that time they have spent $90 million.

    Today it has worked out for Trump in that Republicans LOVE to support a candidate who comes with criminal indictments, at least around the time of those indictments.

    But, where is this going?

    Already, he's moving money from his ad campaign into his funds for paying legal bills.

    Today he has 3 federal criminal trials - one each in FL, DC and Manhattan. He's almost certain to get another indictment in Georgia. And, he has multiple civil trials coming up.

    During the various trials, he will have multiple lawyers who, at that level, charge between $1,500 and $2,000 per hour and will be working large numbers of hours per day.


    So, what are other Republican candidates, the RNC and everyday Republicans supposed to think when Trump (the claimed multi billionaire) is sucking up dollars from small donors and spending it on trying to stay out of prison?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/us/politics/donald-trump-legal-bills-campaign.html
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone has to stand and fight a corrupt judicial system trying to rig an election in plain sight. Trump happens to be the only one in the crosshairs today.
     
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    You're joking, right? He's indicted by juries based upon evidence. He will also be convicted based upon that evidence - easily. Federal trials have a very high success rate. You guys could easily choose somebody else. Still could. Probably would have an easier time beating Biden than Trump too.
     
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    If Trump gave a damn about the country, he would draw and let a candidate run who has a chance of winning. He won’t because the whole world is about HIM. Republicans should wake up and cut off his contributions.
     
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    So first, even an incompetent persecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. This is not to say Trump won't be convicted, or that any convictions won't stand up to appeal. It's just noting that an indictment isn't such a big deal.
    Second, neither Trump or Biden will be on the ballot come 2024. I will take bets on this.
    Third, Republicans have several alternatives to Trump, several of whom could likely beat a democratic candidate. (GO NIKKI!!)
    Fourth, Democrats need to get off their collective butts and find an alternative to Biden. If they don't we could end up with say, Cornell West as president.
     
  6. JohnHamilton

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    I hope you are right about Trump and Biden. We don’t need either of them. Even if they were “perfect candidates,” they are too old.

    The trouble is Trump speaks to people who think they have been disenfranchised and forgotten. Democrats think Biden is the only candidate who looks “moderate” who can win for them.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think he even really wants to be president again, I think he mainly wants to get the approval of the public, knowing that people would elect him again, which would kind of imply that they approved of his presidency and that he did a good job, and more important than anything, was a "success". It would also, in his mind, help vindicate his claims about the election having been stolen.
    Ironically, if the Left hadn't put up a media campaign to make him look bad, and if the public had overwhelmingly viewed him as a "success", and if Trump had been able to implement some of the policies he wanted, I don't think Trump would feel the need to try to run for President again.

    He was already wealthy and can live in comfort. Being president was just another feather in his cap, a life goal that he can cross off.
     
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  8. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden looks modern. How sad is that?
     
  9. JohnHamilton

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    You make a lot of good points. If the left and the media had treated him fairly, it would have been different. If Adam Schiff had not been allowed to do what he did, the poisonous atmosphere would not have been created. If the FBI had done its job, and exposed the phony Steal Dossier for it was. If, if and it.

    But the damage has been done, and the worst aspects of Trump’s personality are in plain view.
     
  10. JohnHamilton

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    I have no idea what “modern” is. If you mean “moderate” many of us can’t agree with you respect to his policies what in office. At the beginning of his presidency he told us that,”He would be the most progressive president in history.” He has kept that promise. That is not “moderate.”
     
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    Generally, you'll want someone who is not a corrupt criminal to be the one to stand and fight if you want that fight to actually have any credibility. At least if you ask me.
     
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    You really do not understand the man at all, do you? And that's hard to accomplish because he's been the same person for decades.
     
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    I think he just wants to prove to the rest of the world and himself he's a "winner". That's what this is about.
    Being President is a huge amount of work, and for someone like Trump, especially having already been President before, he doesn't really gain anything from that.

    Although of course he wants to impose his views to fix certain things in the country, and leave a small "legacy" or "footprint" on politics and in history.
    So that part is both a bit egotistical and selfless at the same time.
     
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    Sorry, my predictive text failed me. No, I think it’s sad people view him as moderate, now. He used to be.

    The 2024 election is shaping up to be something made up in nightmares.
     
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    And why does he have to do that? Because he's a classic narcissist. No amount of proof will ever be enough, unless that proof is perpetually forthcoming, constantly, feeding that addiction to attention and adulation. That's exactly what he gains from being president and it's the only reason he ever ran in the first place. And, he's tasted it now. The addiction is in hyperdrive.
     
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    Even if true, it's not necessarily a bad thing for the country. His self view is tied up into whether or not he can be successful and improve things. And he actually would have to improve things to gain recognition of that from the public.

    The Democrats and media were desperately trying to deny that from him. Even making political sacrifices themselves to deny Trump anything that could be pointed to as a success.
     
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    His self-view is tied up in people loving and adoring him, no matter how that comes about. He only serves himself and therefore will never serve the nation. He proved this by his 2020 election fraud antics and his continued attack of our election system still predicated on the fake election fraud scheme he invented in 2020.
     
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    100 years from now only legacy Trump will have

    The man who completely mishandled COVId-19.

    Twice impeached.

    One term president.

    And

    A sitting president who wanted to overthrow election result.
     
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    For 8 long years Trump claim Obama was illegitimate President.. And you wonder why Dems and Media deny Trump’s success?
     

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