Trump is tearing our country apart

So the IRS targeting, gun running in Libya and Hillary's private hacked email server didn't divide people? BTW Trump has been President for 24 days so far. Also Obama made no attempt to reconcile with the right after he took office, he adopted a "my way or the highway" stance. Why on earth should Trump do any different?

 

Trump is the only POTUS that has a set to do what he said he would do!......8 years of ole big ears has done nothing to curb the illegal crossings...mostly mules dragging their drugs and other items into the US as to sell to your kids....

 

Misinformed is what the Left do, not the Right. Even if they have to doctor videos to do it, which they do. They are great at telling down right lies, or half truths. Watch how the edit these two video to mean something completely different than they really are.

[video]http://therightscoop.com/ed-schultz-deceptively-edits-video-to-accuse-perry-of-racism/[/video]


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More deceptive editing by NBC [video=youtube;YFjwDzkqn5s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFjwDzkqn5s&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

The left is tearing our country apart. They will not accept anything that is not their way. President Trump should not attempt to placate these idiots. They have became so extreme they make the Tea Party look sane.

 

Ok then that one line of mine would have to be changed.

But the rest of it can be maintained as it is directed at the loudest voice of opposition: the vicious radical Leftists.

 

Trump apparently is trying to sabotage the Trump Presidency. Trump is unable to delegate authority. There should be one person running the White House staff. That would be Trump's chief of staff, Reince Priebus, but it is obvious Trump hasn't delegated that power to Priebus. Consequently, there are a number of power centers in the White House, Priebus himself, Flynn before he was fired, Bannon, Conway, Spicer, Miller, and probably others.

The result is mass confusion. Flynn lied to the Vice-President, then tried to cover it up. Trump knew about the Flynn conversation three weeks ago, but didn't tell Pence. Pence found out about the lie from the newspapers on Feb. 9. Conway says Trump has Flynn's back. The following day Trump fires Flynn. Conway says Flynn resigned. Spicer told reporters in a press conference Trump essentially fired Flynn. Bannon orchestrated the Flynn fiasco, but he is saying nothing. No one has heard from Priebus about all this. Despite foreign crises; Iran launched a ballistic missile, North Korea launched a ballistic missile, Kim Jung Un's brother Kim Jung Nam was murdered, a Russian spy ship is 30 miles off our coast, Russia is moving a new generation of nuclear-capable missiles into Eastern Europe in a treaty violation, and Russian fighters buzzed an American destroyer in the Black Sea, Trump's National Security Council has not met. Of course, the NSC doesn't have a leader right now. The NSA was fired.

In addition, Trump formulated and changed decades long American foreign policy regarding Israel at a press conference on national television, embarrassing the Israeli P.M., Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu. In front of cameras he asked Netanyahu, “I’d like to see you hold back on settlements for a little bit.” He also said the United States would no longer insist on a Palestinian state as part of a peace accord between Israel and the Palestinians, backing away from a policy that has underpinned America’s role in Middle East peacemaking since the Clinton administration. Incredible, shocking, I realize Trump is unorthodox, but are we now going to be renegotiating American foreign policy in front of a national television audience?

Is Trump unorthodox or just plain dangerously inexperienced?

 

This really is very interesting. In dealing with the public the Trump camp is attempting to overlook the indiscretion -- Flynn lied to everyone in the White House including the Vice-President -- and blame those that discovered the indiscretion. The crime is not the crime. The crime is the people who told the truth.

It won't work. The tactic is blatantly transparent. The White House, led by Trump himself, wish to shift blame to others. One day after Trump fired Flynn because he couldn't trust him Trump tweeted, “The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. Foxandfriends is great!” the President wrote on Twitter. A loyal fan, I get most of my material from Fox News. I watch two to three hours of Fox daily. I plead guilty to being a news nerd.

Trump continued his diatribe against the media and his own intelligence services as though they were to blame for all his troubles, not himself. “Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & Washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?). Just like Russia. The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by ‘intelligence’ like candy. Very un-American!” He even managed to blame the Clinton campaign for all his troubles.

This is surreal. It would be funny were it not so downright tragic. He is the President, for crying out loud.

 

You bring up a very interesting point of view. I have been thinking along the same lines, but I am equivocal when it comes to blaming capitalism for what is happening in the world.

I blame right wing extremism. It appears that certain nations of world with right-of-centre governments in power in the world’s major democracies - India, Britain, Germany and Japan, similar to the trend seen across the United States, Europe and South America are sweeping the globe. This is disturbing because right wing governments encourage nationalism and isolationism. Nationalism and isolationism caused two world wars and a number of other major wars in the 20th Century and early 21st Century.

Trump is a product of that right wing extremism. You can see it in Trump's supporters. Many are xenophobic. Isolationism is expressed in Trump's executive orders that created the Muslim ban. It can be seen in Trump's desire to wall us off from our southern neighbor. Nationalism can be seen in Trump's slogan, "Make American Great Again." He wants to make America first, but the way he interprets that it is America only. He fails to understand that other countries may not play along with his grand dreams, and when a nation dreams of being a great power to the exclusion of all others, that is what causes wars.

Right wing extremism usually needs a scapegoat, some enemy, some ethnicity, around which the leader hopes to unify the country behind him. Hitler used the Jews. Trump uses the Muslims. He also uses the news media and his own intelligence agencies as whipping boys.

And through all this Trump has his adoring fans, his cheering base. Regardless of outrageous it is, his fans believe everything he says, even if what he says conflicts with what he said the day or week before. They believe his mantra of "fake news." This is very convenient because if something is critical in the news media, it obviously is untrue because it is fake news.

The man scares me. He fails to realize his own errors of judgment, his total lack of experience. He feeds off his adoring crowds, and he really thinks he is God's gift to humanity. For the most powerful man on Earth when it comes military power, that can be very dangerous.

 

You forgot the attacker in St.Cloud, Dahir Adan. He, too, was a Somali refugee. That is two men who came to this country and years later went berserk. Do you feel American refugee policy should be influenced by two young men who went nuts?

You also forgot what I said. I said, "Since 9/11 there has not been a successful terrorist attack in the U.S. by a person who entered our country illegally or a refugee." The only people who died were the two attackers. That is hardly successful. Also, I don't think attacks by two young men who went crazy qualifies as a terrorist attack. I don't care who claims responsibility. That is just propaganda.

Funny, you forget what I said, but you remember ISIS propaganda.

 

I see you didn't correct anything I wrote. So you must agree what I wrote was the truth about the Trump White House.

However, you seem confused. I am at a loss to understand what I wrote about the Trump White House has to do with Clinton and Obama. If you wish to talk about them, I suggest you start your own thread. This one is about Trump, our current President. If you wish to dwell on the past, be my guest.

 

That may be, but you failed to correct anything I wrote about Trump. I can only assume you agree with my criticisms of him.

BTW, he has been in office for a little more than three weeks. Outside of amassing confusion in the White House (see my posts on this page) he has done very little. Actually, he has created so much controversy, little work has been done on tax cuts, repeal and replace Obamacare, infrastructure, job and income growth, and so on. All these thing are awaiting guidance from the White House, but Trump is too busy with everything else much to the chagrin of Republican lawmakers.

 

President Trump is tearing the obama legacy apart. Everyone should pee on it when he is done.

 

You are doing the same thing that O'Reilly and Tucker do on Fox News. They use the most extreme leftist videos like MSNBC and news headlines and go from there. They know they are extreme leftist views and do not represent the news media as a whole.

On the hand, the respected news sources use exactly what Trump does and says. There is nothing fake or doctored about it.

I have noticed that you have taken a pass on my criticisms of Trump. They are fact based. But you would rather talk about MSNBC rather than attempt to defend your boy. That is a wise choice.

 

What does this have to do with the thread? Is there anything that I have reported that is deceptive? If you think that, then be specific and we'll talk. All of this immaterial. I never listen to MSNBC or NBC. They are too liberal. My primary source of the news is Fox News. I watch Fox about two to three hours a day.

Now don't you look foolish.

 

...the Dems are going crazy with conspiracy theories....isn't it wonderful?!!!

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Do start in the Am ?....hitin the bottle?.....

 

Once again, you are unable to challenge anything I said about the Trump White House. So, it must all be true in your mind.

You say the left is tearing the country apart, but you offer no proof of that. I have offered a great deal of proof that Trump is tearing our country apart, and you haven't questioned a single thing I have said. Instead, you change the subject and try to blame the left for Trump's faults.

BTW, I'm a conservative.

 

The attack I cites was a successful attack, just ask the people that were maimed for life.

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It was just so absurd as to defy any response.

 

Trump once dismissed the trans-Atlantic military alliance as "obsolete," and his apparent change of heart comes a day after talking with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. Then the president praised the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, telling the audience of U.S. military personnel, "we strongly support NATO."

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis issued an ultimatum Wednesday to allies in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, warning that if they do not boost their defense spending to goals set by the alliance, the United States may alter its relationship with them.

“I owe it to you all to give you clarity on the political reality in the United States and to state the fair demand from my country’s people in concrete terms,” Mattis said. “America will meet its responsibilities, but if your nations do not want to see America moderate its commitment to the alliance, each of your capitals needs to show its support for our common defense.”

At his press conference today, Trump said, "And, you know, you can talk all you want about Russia, which was all a, you know, fake news, fabricated deal, to try and make up for the loss of the Democrats and the press plays right into it. In fact, I saw a couple of the people that were supposedly involved with all of this — that they know nothing about it; they weren’t in Russia; they never made a phone call to Russia; they never received a phone call."

In January, Trump said, “Wouldn’t it be nice if we actually got along with Russia and China and all these countries? Wouldn’t it be nice?"

Weakening NATO, saying nice things about Russia, Putin definitely got his man.

 

So were 700 homicides in Chicago in 2016 successful attacks. That doesn't make them terrorist attacks. Two young men going nuts and getting themselves killed are not terrorist attacks in the strictest sense of the word. You are believing ISIS propaganda.

 

Below are excerpts from Trump's press conference on Thursday. He should be commended for taking on all comers, but his rhetoric was rambling, schizophrenic, and very disturbing considering the fact that he is our President. His words are in italics.

But much of it is not a - the distortion — and we’ll talk about it, you’ll be able to ask me questions about it. But we’re not going to let it happen, because I’m here again, to take my message straight to the people. As you know, our administration inherited many problems across government and across the economy. To be honest, I inherited a mess. It’s a mess. At home and abroad, a mess. Jobs are pouring out of the country; you see what’s going on with all of the companies leaving our country, going to Mexico and other places, low pay, low wages, mass instability overseas, no matter where you look. The middle east is a disaster. North Korea - we’ll take care of it folks; we’re going to take care of it all. I just want to let you know, I inherited a mess.

Mike Flynn is a fine person, and I asked for his resignation. He respectfully gave it. He is a man who there was a certain amount of information given to Vice President Pence, who is with us today. And I was not happy with the way that information was given.

He didn’t have to do that, because what he did wasn’t wrong — what he did in terms of the information he saw. What was wrong was the way that other people, including yourselves in this room, were given that information, because that was classified information that was given illegally. That’s the real problem.

And, you know, you can talk all you want about Russia, which was all a, you know, fake news, fabricated deal, to try and make up for the loss of the Democrats and the press plays right into it. In fact, I saw a couple of the people that were supposedly involved with all of this — that they know nothing about it; they weren’t in Russia; they never made a phone call to Russia; they never received a phone call.

Well the leaks are real. You’re the one that wrote about them and reported them, I mean the leaks are real. You know what they said, you saw it and the leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake.

We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before so that’s the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan.

To disclose all the misrepresentations in his press conference would take a long time. I will attempt to be brief.

In attempting to describe the "mess" our country is in he failed to mention Russia and the spy ship 30 miles of our coast. We have enjoyed 75 straight months of job growth.

Trump told reporters what Flynn did wasn't wrong. A private citizen effecting American foreign policy with an enemy power then lying about it to the Vice-President isn't wrong? According to Trump, what Flynn did was not a crime. Those that provided the truth committed a crime. That does not make sense.

"The leaks are real" but the news about them is fake? That does not make sense.

Trump was angered about the leaks. However, during the election campaign he supported them. He even encouraged them. In July, he said, "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

That he got the most electoral votes since Reagan is simply false.

With his arrogant insults Trump managed to anger nearly every news outlet in the room. Even conservative news sources were disturbed by Trump's charges. That is a very unwise course of action for a President to make.

 

Nobody took it seriously. The point was the Russians were the bad guys. Like all early 80's movies. Why? Because the Russians were the bad guys to Americans.
The fact that you thought the movie might have been taken seriously shows how ignorant your understanding of early 80's US sentiment toward Russia was. You don't understand.

 

I suppose the legitimacy of who we claim to be.

 

If America gets torn apart, Americans have torn it apart. Americans make this country and determine the fate of it.

 

Every time a new U.S. President is elected whatever political party lost is going to start screaming....THE END IS HERE!! LOL!!

I really get sick of this crap!!

Another example being New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft is on the Today Show and Bob usually votes Democrat but he is a good man and is asked a question by the Today Show host who is making this big deal about how 8 players of the Patriots will not be going to the White House at the invitation of the President.

Bob Kraft says....."You know we the Patriots have been fortunate enough to have been invited to the White House 5 times since 2002 and every time we go at least 12 players don't make the trip. So it is interesting as to WHY NOW the media is making such a big issue out of 8 New England Patriots players who are not going to the White House this year?"

That say's it all!!

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