Trump, newly charged, urges defunding Justice Department and FBI

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Defunding the FBI is the right thing to do since it's been weaponized by partisans.
     
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    If Republicans want to be stupid and get rid of the FBI in their states, by all means, they will learn their lesson soon enough. :)
     
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    Oh, okay... you got me. What lesson will they learn?
    Crime is rising in case you haven't noticed. The FBI couldn't catch a cold.
    The FBI started out as a good idea, but it's circling the drains as it's just become a big bloated federal bureaucracy with too much power. If one likes illegal spying on US citizens, I guess they're for them staying in power.
     
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    1st thing, banks, you may want to a look at that history, the regulation, robberies, etc.

    So now Republicans are better at crime fighting than the FBI, sure you are. :)
     
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    You aren’t making any sense. This incident didn’t occur in a vacuum, there is a lot of history involving feds being weaponized by Dems.
     
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    So you don't know Bragg is not a fed employee.
    Hint: He's not.

    I suspect this history thing you claimed only resides inside your brain.
     
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  7. Moolk

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    You are arguing with yourself as in ever said he was. Your suspicions are, as usual, based on your hope, not reality.

    I stand by what I said. And I am correct.
     
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    The fbi has become corrupt.
     
  9. Zorro

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    Trump's right. The Dirtbag DOJ and FBI are not only completely corrupt, they are barking mad: “Justice Department: Crime Statistics Are Racist, Shouldn’t Be Used to Focus Resources on High-Crime Areas.”

    This what happens when a corrupt Cabal rigs and election to installed the most internationally bibed politican into the WH.

    'The draft policy ignores the Justice Department’s own studies showing that arrest rates closely mirror crime rates, which are higher in the black community. For example, a 2021 study by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics found that although blacks are arrested for serious nonfatal violent crimes at more than twice the rate of people in general, this is not due to racism. Instead, arrests are correctly “proportionate” to the actual crime rate (which is higher among blacks than among whites), and to the crimes actually reported to the police, which often are committed by black offenders. As it noted, “white and black people were arrested proportionate to their involvement in serious nonfatal violent crime overall and proportionate to their involvement in serious nonfatal violent crime reported to police.” (See Allen J. Beck, Race and Ethnicity of Violent Crime Offenders and Arrestees, 2018).'
     
  10. Arkanis

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    Neither the FBI, nor the DOJ, nor the police, nor the judges will be replaced to make a MAGA wet dream.

    Are you that out of touch with reality to believe that the entire judicial system in this country will be thrown in the garbage because the MAGA's are in thrall to Donald Trump's cult of personality?
     
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    You entire question is fake news.

    The Corrupt Dirtbags at the FBI and DOJ are not the "entire Justice system". And yes, I do expect, in time, for The People of The United States to reassert Constitutional Authorities over the crooks that currently infest the DOJ. To effectively used the Power of the Purse, one needs the House/Senate and the Presidency.

    Tell me that the GOP will never again hold all three of these.
     
  12. Arkanis

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    The MAGA aren't "the people of the US."

    MAGAs are hated by the rest of the population.

    Only 24% of Americans have a positive opinion of you.

    Your extremism terrorizes the vast majority of Americans.

    The GOP, perhaps one day.

    But as long as the MAGA's exist, the people will never give you enough power to carry out this hare-brained scheme you call your political agenda.

    Wasn't the message the voters gave you in 2020 and the Midterms clear enough?

    I'm glad it wasn't.

    Trump is headed for a GOP coronation and the fear he inspires will be more than enough to guarantee liberal control of the country.
     
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    Better get used to calling him president Trump because the more you try to go after him to discredit him, the more power you're giving him
     
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    It’s not a question as to whether these institutions are acting in a politically biased manner. The evidence is clear they are. The question is to what degree, and simply put they have lost the faith and trust of America.
     
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    I find it so utterly hilarious, that now that it's Biden's DOJ they trust the institutions inexplicably and want to defend the integrity of the institutions. But when it was Trump, he purportedly was using the institution 'against his political opponents'
     
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    Who gives him power?

    It's not liberals who will vote for him in the GOP primary.

    Would you like us to stop talking about Trump, the seditionist POTUS, and hope that MAGA's will finally turn to DeSantis?

    That's not how it works.

    Your party has been highjacked by the MAGA. They are the ones who decide.

    And then you're still not going to make me believe that you won't vote for Trump enthusiastically if he's the nominee in 2024.
     
  17. Arkanis

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    Your only "proof" is that the authorities are investigating your cult leader and will soon bring a ton of charges against him.

    Justice isn't going to stop just because you worship a seditionist ex-POTUS.
     
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    Hey I'd much rather prefer DeSantis, but he's young and his time will come. If it's down to Trump or Biden, we've done the Biden experiment and it's been an absolute train wreck.
     
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    Your false moral equivalence does not fool anyone.

    Trump wants to purge the FBI, DOJ and appoint judges who are in his pocket.

    A second Trump term will be the end of American democracy.

    And you expect me to believe that Biden is worse than that?

    This is why you MAGA's have become the most dangerous political movement in US history.

    You are willing to put your political agenda ahead of the preservation of democracy and institutions.
     
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    The proof is the opinionated takes not based on any current specifically worded laws, charges brought that aren’t clearly explained nor articulated, brought on by people whom have been very public with thier “gonna get him” agendas. You can ignore the evidence but I won’t.

    I don’t worship anyone, that is simply what you want to believe I do in order to justify to yourself why you believe what you believe.
     
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    WE’VE NOTICED: Federal law enforcement just straight out lawless.

    Power of the Purse is one way that the Framers gave us the tools to keep corrupt lawless thugs in government in check.

    How many lawmakers are the FBI blackmailing.

    'The FBI has refused to give Congress an informant file alleging that President Biden took bribes while he was vice president'

    'House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) issued a legally binding subpoena last week requiring the FBI to turn over the file by noon Wednesday, but the bureau instead replied with a six-page letter raising various objections.'

    '“Information from confidential human sources is unverified and, by definition, incomplete, “As is clear from the name itself, confidentiality is definitional to the FBI’s Confidential Human Source program,” Dunham wrote. “Confidential human sources often provide information to the FBI at great risk to themselves and their loved ones. The information they provide also can create significant risks to others who may be referenced in their reporting.”'

    Oddly though, 'no one at the FBI blinked at leaking information that reflected poorly on Donald Trump while he was president. They certainly provided information to Rep. Adam Schiff, or so the lawmaker claimed.'

    'A high-level NSA whistleblower says that the NSA is spying on – and blackmailing – top government officials and military officers, including Supreme Court Justices, high-ranked generals, Colin Powell and other State Department personnel, and many other top officials'

    I support 30 year prison terms and stripping of pensions of any in the government who is illegally spying on, and/or blackmailing government officials, military officers, Judges and Lawmakers, or any US Citizen.
     
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    Ah another RW conspiracy theory. You guys never fail to amuse!
     
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    Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
     
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    The corrupt dirtbags of the FBI are operating under a political 'double standard. They have information that the President of the United States took bribes from an adversarial power while serving as the vice president and they won’t share it with Congress, while the same FBI was willing to leak information on Trump to everyone in the country.'

    'Moreover, there doesn’t appear to have been any kind of effort to provide a record under some kind of control. No discussion of providing it to the Intelligence Committee or anything else.'

    The corrupt dirtbags of 'the FBI are covering for Biden, protecting him and his family from public criticism, and helping to give him a second term.'

    The GOP could have both Houses of Congress and the Presidency by 2025. They need to bring these corrupt dirtbags back under the constraints of the Constitution and make sure that the next set of corrupt dirtbags can be shitcanned more quickly and easily that this set of vile crooks.
     
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    These organizations have demonstrated a clear political bias and have earned the distrust of America.
     

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