Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    And this demonstrates your partisanship and lack of common sense. No victims, No fraud. Simple.
     
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    What is the culpability of the banks involved in making the loans to Trump if they didn't do their own research into the value of his properties? If you go to trade your car in on a new vehicle, the car dealership will do a reasonable amount of research on your old car before making you an offer. I'm not a bean counter but some of this simply doesn't make sense.
     
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    Archived site for this
    https://archive.ph/b02kZ
     
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  4. Nemesis

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    Ironic post of the year!

    You need to read the decision instead of spinning into a rage over irrelevant issues.
     
  5. AFM

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    I brought up this very point a few days ago wondering if Letitia and Arthur would be prosecuting DB which is a fiduciary organization for fraud for granting the loan to Trump. No responses. Good luck.
     
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    cool Link, but Carter page still wasn’t a presidential candidate.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Glad you think the vaccine is safe and effective. Ironically enough, most trump lovers don’t.
     
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  9. AFM

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    Carter Page was never charged with anything.
     
  10. Nemesis

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    What would be the basis of the claim? There were no responses because it didn't make any sense.
     
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  11. AFM

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    It’s straight forward. Try reading all three posts again.
     
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    READ THE STATUTE. READ THE DECISION.

    It's "simple", alright.
     
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    No. It made no sense. READ THE STATUTE. DB wasn't using its own artifices to commit a fraud.

    It's obvious when someone has no legal training.
     
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  14. fullmetaljack

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    That wasn't an article. That is a quote from the Decision.
     
  15. AFM

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    Who said anything about the statute.
     
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    Not according to the definition of fraud in 63(12).
     
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    Thank God for that since I never claimed he was
     
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  18. AFM

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    And nobody on the left has bothered to understand the 12 precedents used in the application of the law which have always required proof of damages to justify a fine.
     
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  19. fullmetaljack

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    You know, you just proved my point with complete clarity. That statement you just made is completely inaccurate.

    Executive Law 63(12) and Chapter 666 of the Laws of 1965 give NY both the authority and the mandate to prosecute fraudulent business transactions EVEN WHEN THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO EITHER PARTY.
     
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    All the precedents to the application of the law have required proof of damages. Letitia and Arthur have have ignored the precedents. That is a statement of fact. They have ignored precedent the fulfil a campaign promise to "GET TRUMP".
     
  21. fullmetaljack

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    Well, you can repeat that inaccurate statement forever. By law , NYS is entitled to protect the integrity of the business environment within it's borders. The laws previously cited give the authority and mandate. It's just too bad for Trump fans that he is such a crook and that he got caught. More the fool is Trump for leaving himself vulnerable in this manner because he is such a criminal.
     
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    Please explain why they would go against precedent?
     
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    Leave that up to the banks right? In the meantime, argue against anything Trump says its worth, or be the total financial idiot and bring the tax appraiser values into the equation.
     
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    when top constitutional law professors start ripping the political chicanery of a NY AG who ran on "getting Trump" something smells bad in that terminally infected with Blue State
     
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    this guy did and I expect he understands it far better than all the Trump haters who are gleeful over this nonsense

     
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