Trump Suggests That Soldiers Who Suffer From PTSD Aren’t “Strong”

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Trump's campaign has responded by accusing the media of twisting words:

I'd ask how he was doing that with the response he gave. It's certainly not a smartest thing to say, and I doubt that's what he meant (although I'm admittedly giving him undue benefit of doubt) as perhaps he was just speaking ahead of himself without thinking first. lol I'm just going to stop typing... I can't help him here.

 

Trump doesn't have a clue. What an incredibly stupid man he is.

 

I think he needs a new flag pin, the patriotism in that one seems to be wearing off

 

Really, really stupid. On the other hand, which candidate is likely to send more young men and women into battlezones? That's really all that matters. Hillary has already proven herself to be a warmonger.

 

I wouldn't write off the guy who claims he'd bomb the hell out of Iranian boats over their hand gestures.

 

Ever wonder why the rate of PTSD for U.S. forces is 20 times that of other allied forces?

 

Trump "suggests"....wow, so now from speculation to outright deception. The media is in full Clinton campaigning mode.

 

What part of that isn't true?

Some people can handle it. Some people can't.

I've had zero issues with PTSD since coming back, despite seeing combat on a regular basis, and hitting numerous (3, but one was made pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ty) IED's. Some people saw no combat, and just the idea of being in a war zone gave them PTSD.

Some can handle it, and other's cant. A fact of life.

 

I expect both of them would be as bomb-happy as the current Nobel Peace Prize winning President.

 

I think this demonstrates Trump's muddled thought process. He often produces word salad when trying to talk.

But given his comments about John McCain, calling him stupid might be giving him too much benefit of the doubt.

 

What part of that is necessary? The last thing a 4-time deferring individual should be doing is "keeping it real" about who does and doesn't possess the mental will to deal with combat stressors. The fact that this needed explanation is amazing.

 

I agree. OTOH, not being able to handle it does not make a soldier "weak". Nothing like promoting the "stigma" of PTSD.

 

The media always twists Donny's words........takes them out of context....say he never said such a thing...........and has never taken responsibility (sans "he may have hurt some feeling by some of what he has said without identifying whom he is apologizing to) in all/anything he has said over the past 15 months........

When George misspeaks..........its not a mistake.........without any self control...........he is telling yall what he thinks, believes, feels.....and it is not him being honest and open............it is because he cannot stop/help himself for saying what he says..........

OH yes......Those lies he tell.............he actually believes them as true.......just because he said so.........."Believe me"

 

Context is such elitist garbage.

 

What's not true about saying a person can't handle it? They've been through a lot and some can't handle it, is that now an insult or recognition of a problem? What's he supposed to say, that they can handle it all while they're breaking down and committing suicide? The truth is they can't handle it and need help.

And if you think it's bad now, just wait until today's safe space snowflakes go into battle.

Most of my techs are vets of either Gulf 1 or Gulf 2, one has a Bronze Star and was gassed by the Iraqis in Gulf 1 and requires constant medical care from the VA....when they'll see him...and he comes to work every day, he was able to handle it, others, maybe not.

To NOT say people can't handle it is ignoring the problem.

But hey, the vets supporting Trump, they part of the deplorables per Clinton.

 

Lots of forms of PTSD are not formed by "feelings". A chemical imbalance takes place that can lower serotonin making the person more susceptible to depression or anxiety. Sometimes (a lot of times), it's not about strong or weak. In fact, many of them are fighting the 'silent battle' from within for years before admitting it to anyone.

I don't like what he said.

 

Possibly

 

The military is all volunteers. Do they think they are just going on a camping trip?

Cheney said that they were all volunteers, so they volunteered for all of the pain and suffering they might encounter. It's something that he would never do himself.

 

Is it possible it is because the allies call the disease something else............

I think if you check you'll find that to be the case........

Now would you like to apologize for the insult to our vets by your careless implication?

 

But Trump sees "warmongering" (with other names) as strength and to be used as a threat to others to mind their ways........

Is that the same as what you......(with out any proof) believe HRC's policy is........go check her web site......she states her opinion on that/those issues.......

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Thank you for your service

 

You know, it's threads like these that drive home for me the fact that less than 1% of the population serves in the military, or knows someone who serves in the military.

The military -- and soldiers -- are not perfect by any stretch. But there is nothing "weak" about getting PTSD.

Indeed, you know one reason we have more mental issues today than we did in the past? One big reason is that, thanks to improved armor and medical technology, soldiers are now surviving injuries that would have killed them in wars past. And many of those injuries are blast-related -- meaning long-term brain damage.

These people are not weak. They are ALIVE, living with brain injuries that affect mood, judgement, temperament, etc. Unlike their predecessors, who didn't have these problems because they were DEAD.

Then there's the fact that fighting a counter-insurgency with ill-defined sides and front lines is in many ways more stressful than fighting a conventional war.

Then there's other things related to being just 1% of the population, such as "nobody understands what I went through." In World War II, there was a much larger share of the population that understood what our front-line soldiers had gone through. That didn't make it all better -- there was still plenty of post-war depression, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, etc. -- but it helped.

And the other part is simple openness. After World War II, a lot of people simply suffered in silence, because that's what they were conditioned to do. The problems were there, they just weren't talked about. We're a lot more willing to talk about this sort of thing these days, so it seems like it's more prevalent. But some of it is simply that we're talking about it.

But I do get tired of the 99% feeling qualified to judge those of the 1% who come back broken.

 

This little boy seems to be handling it very well. Maybe Trump was thinking about him?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/20/middleeast/syria-conflict/index.html

 

I don't think he meant it like that...

Most cases of 'PTSD' are cases of people coming back and being bored because the civilian world is boring and sucks ass, so you feel out of place. Granted, we didn't receive any serious casualties (none of the guys I knew anyway), but there's no question in my mind some blow their 'PTSD' out of proportion.

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It doesn't. Vets I know won't disagree with what he said at all.

It only needs explaining for those who don't understand it (civilians, and journalists).

 

Trump has a habit of saying whatever pops into his mind. He is very undiscipline in this. Because of his foot in mouth disease, he is handing Hillary Clinton the election on a silver platter. It started when he trashed our POW's Hanoi held, then attacked a gold star family and so it goes. I think Trump will easily win the veterans vote, mainly because most veterans really dislike Hillary Clinton. But if the meetings I attend at the VFW and American Legion are any example, a lot of vets are taking a pass this election as they consider the choices presented by the major parties as not palatable.

 

Trump has already show he would be the type to get us into more needless wars

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