Trump the only living president NOT descended from slavers

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The irony here is incredible. The big Democrat names on the list are pretty amazing. It's obvious why Reuters did this little deep dive, but I'm wondering what they expected to accomplish.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-slavery-lawmakers/
     
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    Another rare admission against interest by the MSM. On these hangs what is left of their credibility.
     
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    That is because Trump is a recent immigrant. The parents of his dad were both immigrants, his mother was an immigrant, just like that bimbo of a wife he got. lol
     
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    I'm not sure it's ironic that Trump isn't in the list given his ancestors of that period were European rather than American.

    In general, it seems like there are Democrats and Republicans alike in the list and it isn't as if the politics of the current generation has much to do with ancestors going so many generations back. The article also points out that the same would be true of lots of Americans throughout the population, so many that it's impossible to be sure exactly how many.

    I agree that this specific angle doesn't really accomplish anything other that highlight how recent institutional slavery actually was.
     
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    I go to sleep every night crying because I'm just poor white trash. I get blamed for the sins of White slavers from hundreds of years ago and here I am driving a 1.5 liter1986 Yugo GV with shaky brakes.
     
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    Admission? What is there to admit to? Modern politicians are not somehow worse people if they happen to be descended from people who owned slaves.
     
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    Exactly. If anything, this would be more likely an attempt to distract from the terrible things politicians are doing today.
     
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    Why do you think?
     
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    What is your point? Surely you are not saying that the children, or grand-, or great- grandchildren, are responsible for the actions of their ancestors-- if you were, then you would also support the concept of "reparations," for slavery. As I'm pretty sure you regard that idea, that the descendants of slaves should be due any compensatory damages, to be utter nonsense, you could not hold the opinion that the descendants of slave owners bear any guilt, without that making the obvious point of your thread, that you have no constant principles, and will happily contend things in direct opposition to your arguments on other issues.
     
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    Trump enjoyed apartheid rule when he went to college.
     
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    Here's hoping that, before the 2024 election, you will be able to upgrade, to at least a 1998 Kia (though their cars didn't start becoming actually good, until 2009).

    Hey, I drive 1999 Subaru Forester.


    P.S.-- But most importantly, I hope you'll be able, ASAP, to get those brakes fixed.
     
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    She's a manual so I can usually bring her to a stop just by downshifting.
     
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    I do the same thing! LOL.
     
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    The African slave trade was global.
     
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    Factoid: Mr. Donald Trump's father was born in Germany.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    "Trump's family denied German heritage for years"

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/trump-family-heritage/index.html

    "John Walter, a Trump family historian and one of Donald Trump's cousins, said this was an effort to not offend his Jewish customers."

    ""He said, 'You don't sell apartments after the war if you're German,' " Walter said in the Boston Globe article. "So he's Swedish, no problem.""
     
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    Trump was one of very few Affirmative Action Presidents, he won with fewer votes due to affirmative action for the smaller States

    Imagine that, fewer people voted for Trump... but the loser still won
     
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    Admitting anything positive about Trump goes against the interest and bias of his opposition.
     
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    You would call it damned important, if Obama and Duckworth weren't among them...lol
     
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    It's ironic because the first bi-racial president in United States history is descended from slavers. That's the irony part.

    The funny part is, Leftists are left with a choice of voting for the descendent of a slaver, or for Trump.
     
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    Are you suggesting that this is important?

    I would never say it's important.

    We shouldn't be ashamed or proud of anything we had nothing to do with.

    White privilege exists, it's not my fault that my life has been easier because I was white.
     
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    We'll remember you said that...lol
     
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    Your life is "easier" because you made it that way. Race has nothing to do with having a hard life
     

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