Trump to address nation regarding the national security crisis on the border

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Already done where the heck have you been call the damn thing whatever you want. If you think it's cute by your side to say a fence is ok but not a wall, then please understand when this side says it's about the most pathetic ignorant excuse one could come up with. It's literally stupid, give us one example of a wall not working?
     
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    Yes it's Ugly , ineffective and not needed

    Fear Mongering invasion is ridiculus

    Illegal immigration is at a decades old Low

    illegal immigration graph.JPG
     
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    I saw DT during the primaries state that a direct payment by Mexico wasn't going to happen because the optics would be terrible for the leaders of Mexico. However there were other ways to extract the amount, including through tarrifs. These tariffs of course evolved into a much better trade agreement that benefitted the US far beyond the 5B.
     
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    Soon after Trump was elected a phone call between Trump and the Mexican President was Leaked.

    Trump was BEGGING the Mexican President to pay for the wall saying he couldn't face his supporters without Mexico paying for the wall.

    Trump said: “The fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind, because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to.”

    Referring to the Mexican president’s insistence that he would not pay, Trump said: “You cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.”

    Trump even threatened to cut off relations with Peña Nieto.

    The funding “will work out in the formula somehow”, he said, adding later: “It will come out in the wash, and that is OK.” But “if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys any more because I cannot live with that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mexico-australia-call-transcripts-border-wall
     
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    242 years of sovereignty, which has more bad chapters of bad things in its history, than in the same period my country has, which by the way only exists since 1871!
     
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    Yes ... but have you informed yourself about these walls too in detail, eh?
     
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    If the idiot can not live with that, then he should do the US and the world a favor and (politically) die!
     
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    There are losers out there that just can't accept tear Trump is right and they are wrong.
     
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    Trump is going to work every angle. He's a good businessman. Good for him and the American people..
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you feel that Germany has a better history? How so?
     
  11. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Germany hasn't had a good idea in over 100 years.
     
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    Brats, peppers and onions...
     
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    Germans products are high quality and they are well paid for.

    They also have a high standard of Living

    Higher Education is cheaper ( $341 every semester if you go to university but it does not include books, housing.

    Public transportation is great

    More vacation at work (legally guaranteed 24 days of vacation

    More Legal Holidays than in the US

    everyone has a health insurance and it's cheaper

    Female employees are entitled to full-paid maternity leave starting six weeks before the expected due date and ending eight weeks after childbirth. Both male and female employees are entitled to a maximum of three years' unpaid parental leave per child. Throughout the period of paternal leave, the employee may not be dismissed from their job and is entitled to work part time (under 30 hours per week).
     
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    Not sure about now, but about 25 years German machinists worked in 10,000ths of an inch and Americans were working in 1000ths.
     
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    What's their unemployment rate?
     
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    Most German products are not built in Germany.
    The median annual income in the US is over 10 K a year more.
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    Education tuition is cheaper because more is paid through taxes which are among the highest in the world.
    It is easy to have good public transportation when your whole country is the size of an average state in the US.
    Germany has the lowest home ownership rate in Europe about 20 percentage points lower than the US.
    We'll see how well this health care system works now that millions of foreigners will start leeching off it.
     
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    Our poorest State: Mississippi $37,376

    House Homeland Security chair: “Would not rule out a wall in certain instances”

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    “I don’t think Democrats are opposed to any physical barriers.”

    Then why is the government shutdown?
     
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    They have good beer and the autobahn, though they may conflict occasionally. That's all I can think of. As you know, the list would be much longer if it was bad ideas.
     
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    All bad ideas because they're not self sustaining. Not enough new Germans to support the old Germans, and the idea of importing Muslims to support the social programs has not worked out well. https://www.thelocal.de/20100122/24757
     
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    Did I say this? No ... but who has an own bad history should better not play the head teacher and tell others how evil they are, eh?
     
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    Apparently they are putting speed limits on the autobahn now. Because global warming.
     
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    Can you really compare Germany's 'bad history' to America's bad history? Why don't you start this comparison and we'll see which list is longer? Perhaps, given the German media, there is a lack of awareness among Germans for their own history.
     
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    But the US made that environmental decision years ago. However it's good to see that the Germans are finally catching up and becoming responsible global citizens in our mutual struggle to save the planet. Hope they finally clean up the former East Germany also. Never saw such a filthy place, coupled with dirty air, anywhere. Had to clean the car windshield every hour. They were using brown coal, or Lignite, the dirtiest coal in the world and illegal in most places.
     
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    Odd how dirty the communist utopias get.
     
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    Not only the filth but the absolute destruction of the human spirit. However their propaganda in the West was fantastic and, despite the Berlin Wall and other infamous restrictions, many 'Liberals' actually believed it. They're still the same.
     
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