Trump Wants to Lower Poverty Line

That is factually incorrect... according to research done by MIT.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/15-an-hour-a-higher-wage-but-hardly-a-living/
One recent study shows $15 an hour isn't enough to secure affordable housing in most U.S. states. Nationally, someone would need to make $17.90 an hour to rent a one-bedroom apartment or $22.10 an hour to cover a two-bedroom home, according to analysis from the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

Another analysis from Massachusetts Institute of Technology researchers Carey Anne Nadeau and Amy K. Glasmeier found in the U.S. as a whole, it took $16.07 an hour before taxes in 2017 for a family of four with two working adults to reach the living wage threshold. That's up from $15.84 in 2016.


Seems you're still living with your parents, and know very little. lol

 

What it means when you lower the poverty line, is that you have to be poorer to be considered poor. The income line drops. Means if you earned $500 and considered poor, you now have to earn $300 before you are considered poor..... to be swept under rug

 

Trump's conversion of the poverty level to change to Chained CPI, yes, not surprising. I keep hearing that term coming up again and again Chained CPI. What if we need to do it because the federal budget is in such dire straits?

It Is Probably scaremongering In fake news. The full effects of switching Performance measurements have not been explained.

For your information, I don't support the move to cut The poverty level down and Kick people off Welfare. But I want to be a realist, If our budget is in such dire straits then perhaps we just have to make do with cutting The poor off social welfare programs.

 

I make 14 dollars an hour which is more than my boss makes.
I am making it just fine..

 

I'm not taking your word over MIT. Get real

 

Msybe if the idiots at MIT got out into the real world. They'd have a better understanding of things.. maybe they should go build a robot or something.

 

Fact is lots of small businesses are suffering because of the high wages they have to pay for people with college degrees who are worthless as employees.

You hire someone for a minimum wage job here in Colorado your gonna get some yung punk kid who doesn't show up to work can't pass a drig test and is worth about half of his 11.10 per hour.
Want to mandate a min wage, then employers should be able to mandate minimum expectations.

Employers are getting totally screwed by higher minimum wages and it hurts employees who might otherwise have the opportunity to increase theircwages through merit.

 

A family of 4 living on $16 a hour shouldnt exist. People need to have less, or no, kids if they csnt support them without living off the govt tit.

 

No my good man, he loves you.

 

It is worse here by being forced to pay $15 per hour.

 

Advocating a higher minimum wage seems odd in an economy with such a low unemployment rate, one would figure employers would be competing to offer more with around 4% unemployed.

I suppose there aren't high paying entry-level jobs, but this is natural, those jobs are for unskilled and inexperienced workers.

To pay MIT's suggested $22/hour to unskilled and inexperienced workers would be impossible without substantially raising costs to the consumers who acquire services from such workers. How often will you take your car to be washed if it costs $50 instead of $15? Do you want to pay the gardener double?

The market pushes wages down as people compete for your dollars, to the degree the market is free to do this, supply and demand controls wages so we have slightly rising wages in a booming economy with low unemployment.

Right now raising the minimum wage is a dumb thing to argue for.

 

Want to raise the minimum wage? Lower payroll taxes!!

My last job paid substantially more thsn my current one. I was having 600 dollars a month withheld and at the end of the year I owed more. Better than thecyear before though when i owed over a thousand. Thanks Trump tax cuts.

 

That's 2 children, and I quote "with two working adults" with that wage, Einstein. And according to MIT,.. not good enough. And half of the US got such crap wages, or worse. So it's either half of the US are just too dumb to find a better job, but probably,... you get a crap salary in the US.

 

We have a population crisis, There are not enough people in the US and the population is shrinking.

But it seems like millennials are following your advice 'cause they are only having one child or none period.

 

Ok, so you have 2 unskilled workers having more kids than they can afford to take care of.

How many of that 50% are still in college or HS? How many are high school drop outs? How many are felons?

None of those are meaningful. They either put themselves there, or they just havent spent time in the work force to gain better employment.

 

You go look that up. So far.... 50% who got jobs earn dirt low wages in the US. You think those poor people think it's funny they earn that little? You think 50% of the working population don't want a better job but are too lazy or something? Really? Come one... make your claim that 50% of the working population are that dumb that they all made so many bad decisions that they end up like that. I like to hear that offending remark to half the working population.

 

Exactly. It is the lower middle class and working class that Trump likes and cares about. He’s done a great job improving our situation. We are pleased with our increased number of jobs, our bonuses, our pay increases that are finally again raising our standard of living and we really appreciate the tax cuts from doubling the per child tax credit and near doubling of the standard deduction.

 

Again, it is ridiculous to argue for hiking the minimum wage in an economy with a 4% unemployment rate. If an employer offers too little, the applicant can seek work elsewhere. The US is in a “sellers market” and the workers are the sellers when it comes to jobs.

Additionally, minimum wage earners work in unskilled and inexperienced positions where their employers provide something of value besides wages (skills and experience) which immediately redituate a worker with more marketable value. A worker making minimum wage can immediately seek better pay elsewhere simply on the basis of his employer provided skills and experience.

Some minimum wage workers are sensibly more concerned with a stable source of income, they may not be as attracted to a “lateral move”, they cant accumulate enough of a reserve to survive an extended job search, but they shouldn’t be applying past standards. Truckers, for example, are in high demand, they aren’t highly paid, but spending $2-3k on getting a license to haul interstate is an easy way to double minimum wage.

Moreover, hiking the minimum wage increases the costs for the consumer, particularly in labor-intensive purchases. One gets the impression advocates for minimum wage are either living in their parents’ basement or affluent enough to be unconcerned about the price of goods and services.

 

Ok, I will say it. The 50% of the working population that isnt still in school is working for poverty wages because they put themselves there. They didnt finish HS, they have felony convictions, they failed drug tests, they have a bad work ethic, or any combination of those plus some more. We have a great economy right now with millions of unfilled jobs. If you are working for that low of wages, you are doing it, or did do it, to yourself.

 

So half the country that works are a bunch of losers.
MAGA will be along journey.

 

See, now you get it. Half of this country is on the govt tit, remember when Romney said it? It was true then, it's true now.

 

Imagining this justifies scapegoating a group.

 

I hope you don’t call yourself a Christian. God for bid you should help someone else in need

 

I'm not scapegoating anyone.

I just don't like the situation where I got a bachelor's degree, then a master's degree, and then worked hard on my career for 35 years, and I end up living next door to a high school dropout can't hold a job for more than two months and gets his rent paid by my taxes.

 

Like Christ, I advocate voluntary charity for the poor from individual to individual.

Like Christ, I don't advocate for forced taxation going to a gargantuan bureaucracy, which takes a cut of the money and then passes some of it to the poor.