Trump weighs restarting economy despite warnings from U.S. public health officials

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Total nonsense. Trump knows nothing at all about medical science.
    Of course!! Wishing is great!

    And, medical science says it's getting worse - in fact, exponentially so. And, that's what data clearly shows.
    We aren't hearing from medical science in those briefings anymore. Trump ended that, because it was constantly resulting in him being pointed out as being uninformed - at best.

    Larry Hogan (R) had of the National Governors Association calls this Trump's "imaginary clock".

    And, they're pretty PO. Remember that it's the governors who are fighting COVID.

    It's the governors who have worked with medical science to create plans for fighting COVID.

    It's the governors who are working to keep people on board, making hard tradeoffs on numerous issures regarding people's lives, searching for supplies, etc.

    Now, with NO consultation Trump wants to interrupt their fight against COVID, to encourage people to think they don't have to follow their governors, etc?

    I really don't believe it will be Trump who relaxes the fight. It's the governor's fight. There is NO precedent for Trump to have any say in that.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read further. It pertains to family members that be at risk of everyone else went back to school/work and such...
     
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    By firing that group, including its leader Trump killed the possibility of having a national plan for addressing epidemics in the US.

    So, as of today we do not have such a plan.

    What we have is governors figuring it out as they go.
     
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    Ordering teachers and staff back to teaching when many are in high risk groups and have families with members at risk needs to be given real thought - and not just about the stock market.
     
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    It has nothing to do with the markets, it's about people getting back to work. The current scenario is not sustainable beyond a month or two. Any vaccine is over a year out. Finding the most humane way of isolating those at risk is the only real path forward that doesn't irreparably damage the country. Far from perfect, but we have to look forward...
     
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    Buildings with separate rooms (like hotels, office builings, etc.) are not set up for efficient monitoring by medical staff. And, staffing is a serious issue.

    One attempt has been to coopt Javits Center - a convention center on Manhattan. Then build it out with cubicles. designed for the purpose.
     
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    There are 50,000,000 Americans over 65. There are millions more who are at higher than average risk for various reasons.

    I read that 1/4 of those 10 years old or under and who are infected require intensive care. If they have intensive care, there is little chance they will die.

    "At risk" only means that risk is higher.

    Also, if our hospitals get overwhelmed their ability to serve those without COVID will be significantly copromised.

    So, let's hear your plan.
     
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    Orange Man Bad.

    You claim that China did not tell the WHO that humans could not pass the virus to other humans ??

    Why aren’t you watching the daily briefings and learn about the science of pandemics and how to manage them from the medical experts.
     
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    Again more untruths. The group remained intact and was placed under a different manager. That’s called reorganization for efficiency.

    Have no plan ??? Again you confirm that you are not informed from the daily briefings. Why not ??
     
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    You make my point.
     
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    I just meant to add some focus since various building types are being tried with various levels of success.
     
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    Your every post on this subject becomes less lucid less coherent and more desperate as you are backed into a corner with facts and logic. Time for me to stop wasting my time on someone who is rapidly descending into troll territory.
     
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    Hmm that's interesting considering I've watched everyone of these since the outbreak and on of or both of the DRs has been there every time, spoke, gave updates and took questions ever time. I can't believe you didn't notice that watching the briefings.
     
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    You are probably right. This is demonstrative of a deeper problem on the left.
     
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    Yes, two days ago the team took questions for two hours at the end of the briefing. Some of the moronic reporters continue to be outraged by Trump's racism in calling COVID-19 the Chinese Flu.

    There is an assumption in your statement which might be false. :D
     
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    Sorry, but I have not found any indication to support that aside from political spin.
     
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    Environmentalists are having mixed feelings. On one hand they share our terror and dread as far as what's coming with Coronavirus. On the other hand, the entire world has been forced to accept the concept of AOC's 'green new deal' -- whether they like it or not. The environment is possibly cleaner than it has been in decades.

    This is a satellite photo from outer space of the pollution over Wuhan, China, prior to the Coronavirus outbreak which shut down Wuhan entirely. The second image is after the forced shutdown. The environment took a great big deep breath of fresh air.

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    Republican governors are saying the same thing wrt the president's Easter fantasy.

    And, that includes the part where this act by Trump leads AWAY from solid policy made in light of data and medical experts desiged to stabilize our situation.
     
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    Every one of those briefings has had Trump making statements that were false.
     
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    What are you talking about....of course we do...that's what the CDC does.
     
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    Great post.

    Except, I don't understand the "terror and dread" part and the "mixed feelings" part.

    People I know are self isolating, etc. But, they don't have "terror and dread".
     
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    No, it's actually not. They have a group that plans for how the US will contribute to fighting communicabl disease outbreaks in other countries - ebola, etc. That's quite different, as the governments controlling those countries are not our own.

    The main way you can tell that is that our response has been totally uncoordinated. We don't even have a uniform way of reporting COVID test results. Our ability to produce what hospitls need has been abysmal compared to what it would be if we had a plan.

    With FEMA, we have disaster planning that includes ongoing coordination with every state, division of responsibility, methods for providing what's needed, etc. Since they are a permanent agency, they can learn and improve how they address the problem.

    We HAD a group doing this, but Trump fired them in 2018. It included people in the White House, intelligence and the CDC, as I remember.

    Trump decided it was too expensive to prepare for this problem.
     
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    Name some. You won't because there are none.
     
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    If you listen to the briefings you would not embarrass yourself as in the post above.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-fauci-says-president-trump-flexible-with-coronavirus-timeline
     
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    You are spreading disinformation again. Watch the daily briefings to enlighten yourself. Why are you not doing this ??
     
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