Trump will order the shootdown of incoming Russian aircraft if they don't comply

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-us-should-shoot-russian-planes-if-putin-calls-fail-454902

 

Finally! Someone with balls enough to start a 3rd World War!

 

Putin Trolls will not be happy

 

Please, stop listening to Russian propaganda.

 

Trump is right. Shoot those (*)(*)(*)(*)ers down.

send Putin a message.

 

That's just a silly thing to say. IF trump means what he says here, he's 100% right. The Kenyan has shamed us to the point where the rest of the world laughs at us. Once he's elected, Trump needs to put a sign on his desk:
"Hegemony lives HERE". That's how Empire works.

 

Worked for Turkey actually, no WWIII, no more Turkish border violations, Putin with his tail between his legs, behaving like a true gentlman after his clock was cleaned and his plane was shot down LOL

 

I believe there's usually warning shots before real shots in these kinds of situations, not sure if Trump understands this.

 

I am no friend of the barbarian Russians who behave like pigs but this buzzing of each others planes and ships did not start with Obamski and whether or not it will end with Trumpf is a matter of speculation.

I would like to see us shoot down a Russian barbarian jet that approaches our ships in a threatening manner and we would only have to do it once. I hope that when we do shoot down one of the barbarian's jets that it is a two seater so that we get two dead for one shooting.

 

does not matter. As long as the Russians aren't sure if Trump understands that, they will unlikely to take a chance LOL They do understand Obama's red lines very well though.

 

As will people who do not want war with Russia... which I assume is most Americans. I say let the Russians do their best Top Gun moves until they cause an accident, then the blood will be on their hands and they will have no justified reason to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) at our response. Us firing first may come with a cost too high to bear.

 

They don't need a justified reason. They had no justified reason to invade Georgia or Ukraine. Don't try to predict their reaction based on your western values and views, anticipate it based on their barbaric totalitarian mentality and they won't disappoint.

 

And if that accident they cause kills X number of Americans soldiers or sailors will you still think letting them do thier best top gun moves was a good idea?

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Just another thing to add to my list of reasons for why I'm voting for him. It's funny too because the Russian trolls on this forum thought that Trump would be Russia's new best friend and would do whatever Putin wanted. This puts a big middle finger to that belief. Lol.

 

Come on. Trump just trying to restore outraged American pride. Blah bla bla. There is a better solution. U.S. keeps its military assets off Russian border - No more top gun show.

 

You'd better hope he doesn't send you one first? I'd keep an eye on North Korea instead of Russia if I were you. Russia is not your enemy!

 

Remember Russian submarines on the US coast? That boasted they can destroy USA with nukes?(which is obviously true) Did US do unprofessional buzzing? No.

Russian trolls don't get the concept of international waters.

 

Yeah. Like when Turkey shot down a Russian jet, the world just exploded.

 

You have no idea what the world thinks of you. It's because of Trump that the world is laughing at America.

 

Trump will do no such thing. His foreign policy speach, to a Washington crowd showed us that. He's just pandering to the idiot masses, in order to win the votes. Wake up guys!

 

What makes you think Trump won't do such a thing?

Remember, the POTUS is not the emperor of the United States. He has to kiss Congress ass. American Neo-cons with their claws on Congress seeing Trump not following his word and pulling troops out of Easter Europe, they will launch an all out campaign to paint Trump as weak. The Dems and Republicans can team up and have a field day of the media, to attempt to humiliate him. Trump doesn't like this, and to look strong, will likely still keep troops in Europe.

 

Fair point, but that would be USA s long term war policy, and as you say Trumps hands might be tied. But Trump talked about making deals with Russia, and stopping Obamas 'disasterous' middle east policy of giving democracy to countrys that don't want it. Us would be crazy to start a war with Russia. Much more likely to be an escalation of proxies.

 

What would you say if there are Russian military activity some 50 miles off Miami? Don't bother to answer. It's rhetorical question.

P.S. Why do you call me a troll? Let me guess... Because I have opposite point of view? Yeah?

 

If it's international waters....nothing. It is no threat. I could care less if Mexicans invited Russian troops on the US borders. It's legal if Mexico allows it.

Why troll? Uh maybe because almost all pro-Russians online always bow down to Putin? Always have a hate for the United States and make conspiracies US is trying to get them? Even though we moderates criticize our leaders constantly and the media always pushes the US to bipartisanship. The US does not want war. What is scary is a majority of Russians want the Soviet Union back.

I repeat, the US does not want war with Russia.
-The US has a total of 1900 Nuclear strategic warheads, the Russians have around 1800 but they are way larger in payload. Russian ICBMs like the Topol go 800 kt.
-The US has only 40 anti-ICBM interceptors, while Russia has around 68 surrounding Moscow. While Russia is making S-500 now, and they want layered defenses
-The US Missile Defense sites in Europe is purely for defending Europe(Poland and Romania don't have nukes) they are not to get rid of Russian detterence since they are not in Russian flight path across the arctic
-The US Abrams tank force is barely being upgraded. It doesn't want a ground war. The Russians have the T-14 Armata plus hundreds of T-72s and T-90 capable of a land invasion of Europe. You really think the US wants a ground war with Russia?
-The US has a larger air force, but it's spread out to cover Middle East and Asia. A Russian invasion with jets will be met with NATO fighters. The US doctrine is to rely on allies and partnership to deter aggression.

 

The world is afraid of Trump...Just like they were afraid of Reagan.

And that's a good thing.

 

First, an aircraft that violates your boarders even after you told them to stop.
Is legal grounds to shoot the plane down.

That is very different from a plane flying over your ship, in international waters. Then shooting them down.

Second, why would there be any American ships anywhere expect off our cost?
The idea behind America First is not having all these troops and battle groups spread around the world.