Trump's $15 billion, supposedly impenetrable border wall with Mexico is a joke

Kamala was never in charge of the border despite lazy reporting. She was tasked with addressing the issues causing so many people to try to come illegally.

 

False. No one claimed it was impenetrable, that is a straw man. No one claimed it’s a one thing that solve all border issues. Only that it works, is effective, and an integral part of border control policy.

this remains proven true. But as usual, the lefts knee jerk reaction to their own strawmen arguments and conspiracy theories easily debunk themselves lol.

 

Well put.

Kamala has completely failed in her responsibility at the border.

 

All we needed were these patrolling every few miles shooting anything resembling a humanoid, not chipped as a friendly. We give plenty of warning to everyone that you will be targeted with impunity. You can’t complain. You can’t sue us. You’ve been warned. Border crisis solved in about a year. And I couldn’t care less who accidentally is shot after the news is out. Our sovereignty is more important than anyone stupid enough to temp fate.

 

Especially in TX where most of the border is privately owned.

 

Ah yes, the conspiracy uncovered.

 

Does the system know the difference between a legal and an illegal. ?

BTW, executing someone just because they crossed the border is extreme extrajudicial and unless I miss my guess, illegal in international law.

 

Yes. Tech can mark you as friendly or disarm the robot temporarily if it’s military or an agent. And there are no legal immigrants illegally crossing the border. These would patrol areas we designate. And it’s not an execution. Just like if you jump off a building, the building owners aren’t responsible. That’s your choice to commit suicide. It’ll funnel everyone right where we want them.

And who exactly will hold us responsible? Mexico? What can they do, yell at us? We can cut off all aid tomorrow. They can decide what is more important. I think they’ll side with their business interests over a rando getting shot by AI. It’s not like they give a shot about human rights or life. Look at that country. They’re run by cartels. What can they say? A few eggs will break in the beginning until the word gets out. But it won’t take long since who’s going to attempt to cross if they know it’s a death sentence? Perfect motivation. The ONLY motivation these people understand.

 

Nice try - trotting out the old "conspiracy" flag to see who'll rally around. Only conspiracy in sight is Biden's attempts to mask the scope of illegal infiltration into society.

 

Man, I couldn’t help it! That baphomet pic one poster keeps using makes me laugh so hard. It was better when it morphed colors, and I’m pretty sure she is unaware of what that character means.
Does he even speak to normies like the rest of us?

 

FYI, US citizens may very well be near the border. That device is then just a remotely operated device, and unless it is lucky, it's low speed won't make it too effective.

Now just randomly killing people is murder, everyone deserves a trial

 

Yes, resistance is futile.

 

That's not entirely true. He did at least get Mexico to start stepping up and doing some immigration enforcement of their own.
For a while before that, Mexico was just letting migrant caravans from Guatemala through, knowing that they were just going to be headed into the US.

Mexico was never going to "literally pay" for it, but I think the idea was he wanted to try to squeeze more trade deal concessions out of Mexico, so more benefit would go to the US. So indirectly they would "pay" for it.

Several areas of the wall were old and definitely needed in update. Some sections of the wall were pathetic and not much different from no wall being there, so definitely needed an upgrade.

Now it seems Democrats are not giving funds to repair and patch holes smugglers have made in the wall, and the media is trying to spin this as "See, told you so, the wall is not working."

 

Adios America! A few decades of feel goodery fuzzy wuzzy humanitarian feelings followed by greatest societal decline in history. California used to be the epitome of the American Dream, now look at it. Adios.

 

Well, to be fair, Bannon skimmed off most of the wall money.
And trump didn’t want to use the money on things they couldn’t rig, like hiring actual manpower.
It’s much easier to embezzle or launder money in construction projects.

 

And retail real estate....

 

I've seen that movie. It doesn't end well.

 

Lol…trump did.

 

Trump Republican idea !

 

No he didn’t.

 

Non citizens. Laws don’t necessarily apply. You can’t sneak into the white house without potentially getting shot. Same difference. Crossing the southern border in areas we designate can be an act of war. Something has to be done because it’s slowly draining and destroying us. Mexico certainly doesn’t care. They applaud our weakness. Illegal entry into the country should illicit fear.

And the low speed is still faster than an average human.Doesn’t matter when you have range anyway. And it’s only remotely operated if we want it to be. Technology recognizing human movement has been around a while. It’s in your Xbox. It’s on your phone. It’s in cameras. It’s really not overly complex.

 

The little unsaid part of the story here is that Democrats are not allocating the money to patch holes in the walls that smugglers have made.

A wall isn't just a "build it and forget about it" investment that will continue to do its job with no effort and maintenance.

So some smuggler comes in with a high powered welding torch and some diamond-coated concrete cutting circular saws, probably ends up having to go through 5 different saw blades to cut through one pillar. It takes 3 or 4 hours of consistent effort, they might not even do all the cutting on the same night. Finally, they succeed in cutting a hole in the wall, and get through. But, now that hole is there and other people find it. It's not just that one hole either because over time, there are many smugglers who want to get through that wall. You can walk along that wall and if you walk far enough you are likely to find several different holes in the wall.
If that wall is not being constantly inspected and maintained, it's not going to be very effective.

Read articles like this: Democrats plan to zero out wall funding and reduce Border Patrol money amid historic surge | Washington Examiner

With no funding, how are they going to fix that wall or perform routine maintenance? The border patrol is being told they can't spend money on the wall.

And with funding cut for the border guards, and the border patrol agents sparse and few, a team of smugglers could sit there in broad daylight slowly cutting a hole, even though it takes hours, with very little fear of being caught.

 

In some spots rope ladders can be seen still hanging down from the wall. With the intentional funding cuts, there are not enough border patrol agents available to inspect all segments of the wall. So these rope ladders just hang from the wall for days.

In Mexicali, coyotes defy the new border wall by smuggling dozens at a time into the U.S. - KYMA

And who knows how many other migrants who just happen to come across one of these rope ladders decide to opportunistically use it.

These rope ladders are not easy to get attached to the top of the wall, since the wall is so high and has design features that make it difficult for a rope to get attached to the top. But once one of these rope ladders do get attached, it's just going to be a pathway for even more migrants if it is not immediately spotted and removed.

 

Considering I live in Texas, there are no private border walls on the border. Fences yes, but not walls. Abbott is trying to build his own wall but not at the border, but in the interior close to the border, say 20 miles or so. In both cases, neither worked very well considering that apprehensions still went up in 2020 under Trump, among other things. The only reason why illegal immigration started to go down by official esitmates was the fact that their USC spouses and children were also leaving and going abroad as expats into visa friendly countries like Philippines, Thailand, Brazil, and Columbia, among others.

 

That might just mean more people were being caught.
It doesn't necessarily mean the wall was not effective in reducing the numbers who got through.

In a typical year, only a small fraction of the people who cross are apprehended as they are doing so.

Say for example the wall reduced crossings by 30% but the chance of apprehension went up from 10% to 15% for those who did make it past the wall, the number of people being apprehended would still go up.

(Don't you love using math to illustrate basic concepts and bring reason to a debate? Unfortunately math and logic seem too difficult for some people's brains to handle)