Trump's Georgia TRIAL will be TELEVISED, Judge Says

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The targeting of Trump is a fact beyond question. I'm not talking about innocence or guilt, but the motives behind targeting, and that such behavior could apply to anybody. If you let your emotional hostility or any irrational belief over-ride your value system, if you allow yourself to be promoted into doing that, you are doing a great disservice to the nation and justice. If it works, one place- the least moral among us will try it everywhere they can. At this moment, the existence of America as a free nation and a good place to live is in danger because too many people are allowing this to happen. If that does not change, you will wake up some day to find yourself in a world you never wanted to be in.

    So.... you are saying the material I posted was not in line with the claims of the people who would have been at fault if those claims were true. When government investigates itself, it always finds it has done nothing wrong. Maybe you hadn't noticed that. And if you have ballots that aren't legit, the fact you have them is hardly proof of anything.

    Aside from whatever evidence is legit or fake, one thing remains true. If your garage had a visit by an angry skunk, you don't have to see the skunk to know beyond all doubt that the visit happened.
    That's the situation for the election- the smell of corruption was widespread and overwhelming, you could not possibly have mistaken it. So when people say they didn't detect that at all, we know that either their nose or their character isn't working right.

    One thing you should have a hard time denying is that if the same charges applied to someone other than Trump- there would be no charges or indictments. If that wasn't true, Hillary would be in prison and Joe would be on trial. Joes going to get there anyway, I doubt if anyone will ever call Hillary to account.

    If you care about honor and justice, who it is does not determine the course of action taken. If it does, the strongest and most important point that makes is about the corruption of the people in power behind it. That corrupts the integrity of the nation, and is a danger to everyone.
     
  2. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    Sounds educational, I’ll be in another room reading a book.
     
  3. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL-- yet, for 5 of the others, in the same RICO indictment, Willis can't go fast enough for them.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Very true. But also, your thinking-- about how Willis will try the case-- is very wrong. I guarantee you, her case will be tailored:
    1) to the jury; and
    2) to prove the criminal charges.

    DAs, universally, measure success by "guilty" verdicts. If you watch, you will see. Or do you not do confirmations, of things you have thought?
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are you are afraid of, Wild Bill?

    The truth.

    BINGO!
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm not afraid of the "truth" being presented by the prosecution...lol
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Works for me.
     
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    If they convict, will you accept the verdict?
     
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    No one will be allowed to speak out of turn...lol.

    The Trump hatas who will be there in the audience will be kicked out, at the first word from the peanut gallery.
     
  10. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Probably not, but that's irrelevant. At least they'll have a conviction.

    He won't be tried for insurrection because there isn't enough time.
     
  11. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    EDIT: Did you edit your reply? I had thought you'd written that you were afraid of the "truth," as the prosecution portrayed it (implying that it might be other than veracious). That is why I responded as I had, below. If I'd been mistaken, you can ignore my reply. (End Edit).

    You understand, don't you, that the prosecution is expected to PROVE anything they allege? And that the defense is allowed to call into question, and try to poke holes, in the prosecution's case? So, if the "truth" Willis presents, isn't true, why would you be afraid that Trump's defense couldn't stir up "reasonable doubt?"

    Or did you mean that you would prefer the jury hear the "truth," as presented by Trump's Republican political & media allies?
     
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  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    I edited nothing...lol
     
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    I think all the court cases based upon his indictments should be televised for transparency.
     
  14. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    OK...lol.

    Pardon my mistake.
     
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  15. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It'll be a violation of the Hatch Act for Federal courts to do so because the footage will be turned into thousands of political ads.

    Televising the trials proves that it's all a political hit job.
     
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    I think there are pros and cons either way. I prefer transparency over secrecy. Secrecy affords all sorts of speculative based campaign adds. Like I said, pros and cons either way. I will have to take you at your word on the Hatch Act as I know little about it.
     
  17. DEFinning

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    If Trump is convicted-- that's your ad, right there. If he is acquitted, then it seems unlikely that Dems would use funds to call more attention to a failed prosecution.

    The rationale for having the trial televised, has nothing to do with ads, and everything to do with allowing all citizens the opportunity, to see and decide for themselves, the credibility of the proceedings.
     
  18. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    What do you expect to be secret?
     
  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    The trials won't be over before election day.
     
  20. DEFinning

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    I believe that, at least some, will.
     
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    District Attorneys, are supposed to TARGET, people who commit crimes.
     
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    Not necessarily. It entirely depends on the reasoning.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dodging again, as always.

    DA's are supposed to target people who commit crimes. But not crimes they manufacture for that purpose. Not people who are chosen selectively because they represent political opposition.

    DA's commit crimes when they do that.

    Any honorable person understands that.
     
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    And anyone with two brain cells to rub together, knows that you have not established that DA Willis did "manufacture," any crimes, or that Trump was "chosen selectively" because he is a political opponent. I'd quoted you speaking only of the "targeting" of Trump. So I'd responded that criminals are supposed to be targeted, by DAs. Do you find this too confusing to follow? That is, there is no "dodging," on my part, involved here.

    Notably, your comment that went along with this, was:
    "I'm not talking about innocence or guilt." That sounds like you are trying to wave away the possibility, that Trump is guilty, by saying that the "targeting" is all that matters. The likelihood that you, or anyone, could prove that Willis's motives were politically corrupt, is practically non existent. Trump is getting a pass, on sedition charges, because-- while many allege this of him, with more obvious basis, than the accusation you toss at Willis-- it would be difficult to prove intent. Do you not feel that the law should apply equally, to both Trump and Willis?

    What objection do you have-- if you can, for a moment, leave the depicting of your imaginings, as if they were truth-- to letting the case be decided, in a very open, public trial?


    P.S.-- Oh, and any Republican DA is welcome to bring charges against Willis, if he thinks he can prove them (which I do not think we will ever see one, attempting to do, in court). For the record, as already noted, Republican governor Kemp, of Georgia, says he is aware of no evidence of misconduct, on the part of DA Willis.
     
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    you sir have trouble paying attention.
    1. faux news is now a left leaning media outlet.
    2. I am against ALL politicians demcraps, and their buddies recraps.

    You are not conversing with someone who is on the “opposite side” like you are use to.

    You are conversing with someone who opposes politicians PERIOD.

    These worthless lower than garbage things that are currently in control of our country are the very reason we are arguing today.

    Having an outsider like President Trump (who I do not like as a person, but do like for the policies he did for our country) really opened my eyes and also opened the eyes of many people I deal with daily.

    Some people I am close to voted against President Trump, or even voted for biden, and today they regret that decision because of the ridiculous high inflation, illegals pouring into our country and using our emergency rooms as their personal doctors offices, the 150 executive orders that took our energy independence, and the lost goes on.

    biden is a joke and only a fall guy for those who control him.

    I believe you are smart enough to see what I have pointed out, the question is are you going to keep accepting it?
     

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