Trump's staff coordinated with the Russians during the election

Eisenhower put an end to the Korean War, meaning they stopped fighting and agreed to a truce. Eisenhower is responsible for our freeway system. But I digress. This thread is about our current President's affiliation with the enemy.

Trump seems to be a little weak on Presidential history. Recently, he tweeted, "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!" Bush released 113. Obama 9.

Does he ever get anything right?

 

Talk about anyone but Trump, right. He is too much of an embarrassment.

 

Talk about anyone but Trump, right. He is too much of an embarrassment.

 

Nope sore losers are an embarrassment.

 

Yeah, nothing like claiming the President was born in Kenya…there was tons of evidence for that—right?

Meanwhile, the Trump administration/campaign has come up with 3 concrete ties to Russia. Paul Manafort, Flynn, and now Sessions. Furthermore, it was revealed yesterday that Trump met with a Russian official during the campaign. Meanwhile, Trump has acknowledged that that Russia hacked the DNC.

Meanwhile, we have banned immigrants from Syria. There is zero evidence of any Syrian doing damage to America on any scale; Russia, meanwhile, has 7,000 warheads pointed at your family…travel restrictions from Russia? None.

Collusion between Trump and Russia is more evident than the Sunrise.

 

Little evidence for that thus far.

 

Well, for the record---You are not the one that responded to my post-it was Greenbaymatters----just saying----
But, I'm curious---What other statement do you not find factual?

 

Well, for the record---It was not "you" that responded,it was greenbaymatters--just saying---
I'm curious---What other statements do you not find factual?

 

And now one of Trump's surrogates flew to Ecuador and met with the head of Wikileaks, Julian Assange. Leaving the embassy's Trump's buddy was pounced upon by reporters afterwards, and of course said very little. These people are tight with the Russians. If I to guess, Trump has plans for rewarding Assange. Very soon. Watch and learn....

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/09/nig...ssy-home-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange/

 

No losers here. I am enjoying myself. Trump is so much fun to write about. Now he is doing exactly what the Russians and ISIS wants. There is just no end with this guy.

Here are the indisputable facts. Beginning in October of 2001 and continuing to this day -- a period of 15 1/2 years -- we have been fighting Islamic extremism. The fight has been a woeful failure. Islamic extremism, in the form of ISIS and the Taliban, are stronger now than they were fifteen years ago and vicious terrorist attacks continue to occur in the U.S. and Europe.

Financial Times reports, "Russia has stepped forcefully into a Syrian civil war that has confounded regional and international actors since a popular uprising in March 2011 challenged the authoritarian rule of the Assad family. The evolution of the revolt into a mostly-Sunni insurgency battling a regime dominated by the minority Alawite community, an offshoot of Shia Islam, has turned the country into a battlefield for regional score settling, sectarian bloodletting and international rivalry. The Syrian conflict has evolved in three spheres: local, regional and international.

"Within Syria, the fighting pits a range of mostly Islamist factions against a series of players on the regime side, including the Syrian army, fighters from Lebanon’s Hizbollah Shia armed group, Iranian Revolutionary Guards and a range of pro-regime militia groups. The rebels themselves are divided between various factions. The main Islamist and Kurdish groups co-operate but both are opposed to the regime as well as to Isis, the strongest insurgent force. On the regional front, a proxy war is raging in Syria, with Iran on one side and Sunni Gulf states on the other."

All players share the same goal of defeating Isis, the main Jihadist threat in Syria.

Complicating matters, both Kurdish and Turkish forces are fighting the Assad government, but they are also fighting each other. Kurdish forces have reached an accord with the Syrian Army to cooperate against a common foe, Turkey and their FSA terrorist allies. Adding to the difficulties, both American and Russian forces have agreed to separate Kurdish forces from Turkish forces in eastern Syria. That alone could turn into a nightmare.

Reducing everything to its simplest form where the U.S. and Russia are concerned, Russia supports Assad and Iran, is neutral on the Kurds, and opposes ISIS as well as moderate and Islamist rebels. The U.S. supports Syrian Kurds, moderate rebels, and Saudi and Gulf allies while opposing Iran, ISIS, Assad, and Islamist rebels.

Into to this fiery cauldron Trump has sent several hundred Marines into Syria along with artillery, as part of the ongoing preparation for the fight to push ISIS out of its self-declared headquarters of Raqqa. In addition, the US is preparing to send up to 1,000 troops to Kuwait to be ready to join the ISIS fight if they are needed. Oh, they will be needed.

Trump's mantra is, "We are going to defeat the barbarians of ISIS and we are going to defeat them fast!" Please note, the troop detachment mentioned above will not "defeat the barbarians of ISIS." If successful, the Marines will only help take back a city. Then what? Give it to Assad and the Russians? Or do we just keep the city?

The danger, or course, is what is known as mission creep. For example, President Bush sent two divisions to Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein. It was to be a short war, in and out. The war lasted eight years with severe negative results that affect us to this day.

To make matters worse for Trump, there is this important factor. No Islamic terrorist group has ever been destroyed by military force in modern history.

Former Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has said that it was his and former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey's opinion that “there is no military solution” to defeating ISIS.

What can a couple thousand troops do in Syria that 175,000 troops could not do in Iraq in eight years? Incidentally, Americans are still fighting in Iraq. They are helping the Iraqi army and Kurds retake Mosul from ISIS. The Middle East has been a bad dream for the U.S. since 9/11.

In addition, sending American soldiers to Syria is exactly what Islamic extremists want. Their fervent wish: Kill the soldiers of the Great Satan. It worked in Iraq. It can work again in Syria.

Is Trump making a big mistake?

 

List one thing they leaked that was not true?

 

You are good. Short and sweet. I wish I could write like that.

 

No one, including me, has claimed the leaks were false. That clearly is not the point. Collusion between Trump's staff and the Russians is the point. Your first clue is the thread title.

 

Collusion to tell the truth to the electorate is unAmerican how? that was the very premise of the First Amendment. Your panties are bunched because people actually had a more informed choice. Russia apparently did more for freedom in one election than the entire democratic party did.

 

I appreciate the help, but the last I heard Assange was in London.

THE man responsible for the rise of Britain’s exit from Europe has held a secret meeting with Australian Wikilieaks founder Julian Assange — and he won’t say why.

In the height of Wikileaks’ expose of highly sensitive CIA files, Assange, who has been holed up inside the Ecuadorean embassy in West London since 2012, met with the former leader of Ukip (The UK Independence Party) Nigel Farage, for approximately 40 minutes, a source inside Ukip told The Independent.

It is true Farage is a Trump surrogate. He has appeared on Fox several times mostly with pro-Trump commentators O'Reilly and Hannity.

 

Allow me to repeat your statement. Russia apparently did more for freedom in one election than the entire democratic party did.

Trump fans stoop low, but that one takes the cake. No more needs to be said.

 

Two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak in July, J.D. Gordon and Carter Page.

If it walks like a duck ...

 

Now that you cannot defend your position you run from the discussion like an intellectual coward because your ego must make you think you have won. I voted for crazy ass bernie and even crazier assed Jill Stein and they seem now sane in comparison to DNC sour grape mashers. Hillary rigged the primaries and thought she was rigging the general election and she lost. She was stomped. Her ego killed her too and she has no more to say either because her career is over. She is retired permanently from public office.

 

Oh, this so cool. The Guardian reports, "Former national security adviser retroactively disclosed that he lobbied for firm linked to Turkish government while working as Trump’s campaign adviser. On Wednesday, it was revealed that from September to November last year, while he was working as a top adviser to Trump’s presidential campaign, Flynn was lobbying for a firm linked to the Turkish government, earning $530,000. He and his company Flynn Intel Group Inc filed retroactive documents with the Department of Justice two days ago to register as a foreign agent."

 

And? None of this proves a link with Russia as you first alleged. Does it?

 

It is OUTRAGEOUS that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are not removed from office! The two heads of the Democrats in Congress are outright Russian agents meeting in secret conversations with the Russian ambassador - and both Hilary Clinton and ex-President Obama should be put on trial for TREASON for LITERALLY giving Russia 20% of our uranium so they can build nuclear weapons to kill us all - but then President Obama is on tape promising to make secret deals with Russian president Putin after his last elecion.

Why is the so-called media and press covering up for those Russian agents and traitors in the pocket of Putin and the Russians? Why is the media so subservient to the Democratic Party that they will literally be silent about our country being sold out by top Democrats to the Russians?!

NANCY PELOSI AND CHUCK SCHUMER MUST RESIGN! The MSM needs to stop hiding their relationship with Russia!!!!!!

 

What needs to be investigated is the secret deals that Pelosi and Schumer made with the Russians! To give them more of our uranium? To give them MORE national security secrets? So Putin can give them names of agents to bring into the USA? How to filter them more money via the Clinton Foundation and directions on how to organize more riots, lootings and arson?

 

The only proof you would accept is if Putin walked up to you and said, "Me and Donald worked well together during the your election campaign." Then again, you might say, "Putin is just another lyin' Russian."

One thing is for sure. Putin got his man. He wanted a buffoon in the White House, and he got one. Want more proof? The Michael Flynn debacle.

The Michael Flynn story is surreal, even for Trump. This is unbelievable.

From August through November of last year, while a member of Trump's campaign team and an advisor on foreign relations, Flynn worked for a foreign government. Flynn, who was fired from his position as national security adviser last month, recently registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for $530,000 worth of lobbying work for the Turkish government.

The story gets even weirder. A lawyer for Flynn told the Trump transition team before Trump took office that Flynn might have to register as a foreign agent because of his work for a Turkish client. White House spokesman Sean Spicer on Friday said that Flynn's representative reached out to the transition team and that the transition lawyer viewed it as a personal matter and not an issue for transition officials to decide.

Did you get that? The transition team's lawyer didn't think Flynn working for a foreign power while advising a Presidential candidate was a pertinent issue. Incomprehensible. That is the official White House version? Where is that lawyer working now? Is he Trump's legal advisor?

It gets even worse. Spicer also rejected the notion that Flynn's lobbying work for a client with ties to Turkey's government should have raised red flags about Flynn's appointment as Trump's top national security adviser. He said Flynn had "impeccable credentials" to serve in that role. "We trust people to fill out the appropriate forms," Spicer added.

You know, if this weren't so tragic, it would be hilarious.

I give Trump an F minus on management and hiring skills along with an inability to delegate authority and see a train wreck bearing down on him.

 

A not so clever move, quite transparent, really. It happens every time with Trump fans. Whenever there is a report of another Trump debacle, Trump admirers want to change the subject to Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, Clinton, liberals, anyone but Trump.

This thread is such a report. It is about Trump and his collusion with the Russians which is getting more obvious by the day.

If you are concerned about the activities of Pelosi and Schumer, as a matter of courtesy, start your own thread. I will join you there and I will have your sympathies. I don't much care for either one.

 

Do you have any idea what you are talking about, or are just making this up as you go along? Why do you insist on making yourself look silly?

You want to hijack this thread. You know perfectly well Trump worked with the Russians during the election campaign, and you know the result. Putin got his man. He got a buffoon in the American White House and you feel betrayed. So, you don't want to talk about it.