Trump's Surprise Border Mission Is a Politically Motivated Waste of Money: Pentagon Sources

Deterrence is a good thing.

Would you prefer the alternative? Do you want to see violence?

 

The bottom line is the opinion of those that Newsweek stated they are quoting is valueless. The fact at Newsweek can obtain information from "high level pentagon sources" or so they claim is what is troubling.

Senior-level Defense Department officers concerned about "wasting taxpayers money" there is a oxymoron for you.

 

The holding facility for the children is ready now:

 

We know you Republicans are hoping for violence but given past caravans I suspect you are doomed to be disappointed.

 

Hides from what behind whom?

 

AW, you can do it!

 

The trap door and bone-crusher is a nice feature. You can only get that with the Deluxe Edition...

 

Thank you for proving my point about racist hate mongers.

 

Just for fun, which race did I attack?

 

You mean like the border agent that was killed last Monday by a rock to the head? Yeah, I consider throwing rocks deadly force and should be responded to with deadly force. Don't want to get shot, Don't throw rocks. Pretty simple.

You consider a rock throwing crowd unarmed? What would you have our military do, retreat?

 

I wonder how much a Mexican hair stuffed Mexican leather sofa costs.

 

I'll take: "How do Muslims kill women who refuse to marry their brothers" for $100 Alex.

 

Newsweek = MSM = Fake News

 

Vote DP! The Party of Mob Violence!

 

One assumes thst you haver never seen the actual gear riot police wear.

 

Wasn't that Trump supporters in Charlotte?

 

Are you like learning impaired? A few women and children? Really? Typical Liberal statement. Make this look like Goldie locks is coming over the boarder and refuse to protect the citizens of this country from the real threat. Its this kind of thinking that got Trump elected and will get him re-elected in 2020.

 

Yep, I have seen it. So if they are wearing bullet proof vest its ok to shoot at them now. Got it.

 

• Sept. 15, 2018

ALBUQUERQUE — A United States Border Patrol agent was arrested in South Texas on Saturday in connection to a calculated killing spree that left four people dead in recent weeks around the city of Laredo, the authorities said.

Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar said police officers arrested the agent, Juan David Ortiz, early on Saturday morning after a woman who claimed she had been abducted by Mr. Ortiz escaped half-clothed and sought help at a gas station in Laredo.

“We consider this man to be a serial killer who was preying on one victim after another,” Sheriff Cuellar said. “Fortunately, he’s now been apprehended.”

 

A rock isn't shooting. And no reason to think the peopke in the caravan are going to attack the border or the border agents.

 

Why don't you post your estimate of how many people will be in the caravan when it reaches the Border in a few months.

 

If Republicans were hoping for violence they'd be whining about Trump's effort to deter it, but the only people doing that are you Democrats.

It's not difficult to understand why Democrats would want that. In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the "progressive" coaches in the caravan are encouraging it.

 

A spear isn't shooting, an axe isn't shooting, a knife isn't shooting, but they are considered deadly force just like 1 pound rocks. Our military wasn't ordered to shoot on sight so whats your point.

 

CBS NEWS February 21, 2018, 7:40 AM
New details suggest border patrol agent's death was an accide


President Trump promised in November to bring the killers of border patrol agent Rogelio Martinez to justice and used his death to renew calls for a wall on the Mexico border. The FBI poured its resources into the investigation, conducting more than 650 interviews and 26 searches. While the president and others used agent Martinez's death to make a political point, the FBI believes this was likely an accident, not a crime.

It all happened in the town of Van Horn – more than 100 miles from El Paso and about 30 miles from the border, reports CBS News' David Begnaud. Agent Martinez was found dead in November in a culvert located along a quiet interstate – an area that looks like the middle of nowhere.

• Border Patrol faces deepening mystery surrounding agent's death

Martinez was responding to a tripped sensor along a known drug smuggling route. He radioed for backup. A law enforcement source tells CBS News Martinez then parked on the eastbound side of Interstate 10. He turned off his headlights and kept his emergency lights off so potential smugglers wouldn't see him coming.

It was a moonless night. There are no street lights there, so really the only light you have would be a flashlight, or the headlights of a passing vehicle. The source says Martinez was not using night vision equipment. He then ran across the eastbound lane, the grass divider, then the westbound lanes and ran right off the edge of a culvert – about a nine or 10 foot drop – that had no guardrail or barrier to stop him.

Agent Stephen Garland, who arrived after Martinez, may have made the same mistake, running across the interstate and right off the edge. The FBI suspects he fell off at a different point because his blood was found about 22 feet away from Martinez's body. A border patrol dispatcher was able to make contact with Garland after his fall. Despite his injuries, Garland was able to get back to his vehicle and turn on his emergency lights.

At that time, Garland told the dispatcher something to the effect of "we ran into a culvert," or "I ran into a culvert," or "I think I ran into a culvert." The dispatcher wrote in his log, "(he) thinks they ran into a culvert." The FBI found no other foot prints at the scene, no defensive wounds on either men, or DNA belonging to anyone other than the two agents.

More than three months after Martinez's death, his fiancée Angie Ochoa isn't convinced by the FBI's theory. She says Martinez's injuries were too severe to have been caused by a fall. She is also suspicious because toxicology tests found a pain medication – butalbital – in his system.

"Somebody convinced him to take that medication I think. Um, to make it seem like it was an accident," Ochoa said. "At this point, I think it was probably given to him intentionally."

"Even in a normal dose, sometimes there could be some impairment of ability to function, but very little impairment," said forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden.

We asked Dr. Baden to look at Martinez's autopsy report, which states he died of blunt injuries to the head, but classified the manner of his death as "undetermined."

"This is all very typical for a fall, and not for a fight," Baden said.

CBS News has learned that Garland suffered multiple broken vertebrae and a brain bleed. The FBI believes he has amnesia, and he has nothing to do with Martinez's death. They found no evidence of animosity or conflict between him and Martinez.

Despite the FBI's findings, union officials at the National Border Patrol Council call Martinez's death a "heinous attack."

No smugglers were ever found. CBS News asked the White House for comment on this story. It told us no. We called union officials 40 times, left at least 15 voicemails, and sent 10 emails and five text messages. When they finally got back to us, they said the people authorized to talk were unavailable.

 

I have no clue but unlike you I wasn't stating the military was deployed to fight a few women and children