Trump's trial in E. Jean Carroll defamation case begins

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  1. Arkanis

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    Donald Trump attended the first day of his civil defamation trial, watching as a jury was selected to determine how much, if any, damages the former president must pay to E. Jean Carroll for his 2019 defamatory statements about Carroll’s sexual assault allegations.

    Trump’s courthouse attendance Tuesday — where he attended jury selection but did not speak — came one day after his resounding Iowa caucuses win, yet another illustration of how Trump’s campaign and legal fortunes are intertwined.

    Trump watched as prospective jurors were asked about their political donations to him and his political opponents, whether they believed the 2020 election was stolen and how they got their news.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-defamation-trial-e-jean-carroll-01-16-24/index.html
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    Poor Trump.

    His only line of defense is to claim that the jury members he chooses will be biased against him.

    Playing the victim to the bitter end.

    The purpose of this trial is to determine the amount of damages Trump will have to pay for defaming Ms. Carroll.

    Trump was found liable for sexually assaulting Ms. Carroll this fall.

    I believe Trump will be fined $30 million.

    Who says better?
     
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    The banana republic system already has determined the outcome
     
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    I dont know in this one Arkanis

    You know Im far from a Trump supporter, but this one makes no sense to me. Two people in a room consensually, and then 25 years later she claims it was sexual assault, but she goes after money, and not criminal charges? And all of this when he is POTUS ? This sure sounds like a money grab, or a publicity stunt. Why not go after him before, or even when he is RUNNING for POTUS, why wait until he IS POTUS ?

    For me, this one stinks to high heaven


    Trump is a scumbag, but this one sounds even more scummy....
     
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    The time limit for criminal prosecution had expired.

    Motivations don't matter to me.

    Both sides presented their evidence and the jury decided that the preponderance of evidence was in Ms. Carroll's favor.

    It must be said that Trump has lied repeatedly in this case.

    He claimed never to have met Ms Carroll before a photo of her with Trump was presented in court.

    Trump said she was too ugly for him to have molested her, while he mistook Ms Carroll for his own wife in a photo shown to him under questioning.

    From that moment on, Trump was toast.

    After losing the case, Trump continued to defame her.

    That's why he's still in court today.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But thats the point....WHY now AFTER he was elected POTUS

    They should

    The burden of proof is much less in a civil trial

    So your saying Trump was being Trump ;)

    Again, Trump is a scumbag, but this one stinks. She is a fame whore who came out for money. 25 years is forgotten, unless you can get some more fame out of it ?
     
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    Why ?

    Why should a victim of sexual assault need to justify her motivation when she decides to sue?

    All that matters is the truth and the evidence.


    If your goal is to sow doubt in my mind about Trump's possible innocence, it won't work.

    26 women have come out publicly since 2017 to denounce Trump for sexual misconduct.

    One of them, ms Carroll, decided to go all the way.

    And she won.

    Trump defamed Ms Carroll, recognized as a victim of sexual assault by a jury.

    Trump claims to be a billionaire and the court's aim is to find an amount dissuasive enough for him to stop his attacks.

    I say $30 million.
     
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    Actually, it was very standard jury of peers that decided Trump was liable. Unless we've also been a banana republic for the last 200 years, not
    sure what the **** you are sqwacking about.
     
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    Shall we start a pool on what the settlement will be this time? I'm going to guess $45 million AND by the end of this, Carroll will have started
    a THIRD defamation case against Trump because the guy is incapable of shutting his mouth.
     
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    Incorrect, this jury was stacked against him. Its banana republic tactics at their worst.
     
  10. Daniel Light

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    Ahhh, dude. Trump's lawyers OK'd the jury. Do you know how jury selection is conducted?

    Oh wait, is this another Trump is a poor little victim thread?

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    She met the burden of proof, he could not.
     
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    Im very aware how its selected, and no it is not done in a fair way.
     
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    Jury was 100% pro trump but even they found he was a sexual predator.
     
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    100 percent incorrect.
     
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    Essentially the attorneys will ask the jury, what would it take to get a self-professed billion to stop doing this?

    Personally I put Trump on the stand and ask him what he values his brand as and use that figure.
     
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    That horse has long left the paddock with findings he raped her. /The end.

    I love the opening remarks of Carroll's Lawyer....."How much money will it take to get Trump to stop" defaming Carroll?

    The number keeps rising even as the Trial continues with Humpty posting more abuse on social media from the Court Room.

    Kerching!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Humpty, you idiot!
     
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    LoL

    It would really be pure enjoyment to hear Trump claim that he's actually quite poor.

    Trump's fortune is slowly eroding.

    By the end of 2024, he'll be on the verge of ruin.

    The banker who thought he was smart to take over the Deutsch Bank loan after it broke its business ties with the Trump org must be taking a lot of anti-anxiety medication today.
     
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    So the usual BS ... it's only fair if Trump wins. Well, excuuussee me.
     
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    What is the jury selection unfairness to Humpty?
     
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    Exactly what evidence did she have that he sexually assaulted her?
     
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    The judge ruled the jurors would remain anonymous to the defendants lawyers in a CIVIL trial making the jury selection unfair.
     
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    And then when Trump offered his DNA to refute her claims, the judge refused it lol saying it was too late. What the **** is that?
     
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    She can’t go after criminal charges nd I doubt she would have gone after money if he had not been a complete dick nd started defaming her to the point she lost her job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll

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    rump lost because he continued to be a stupid jerk. He lost the minute the access Hollywood tape was admitted into court because it is him bragging about attacking women. He doubled down on it in his deposition

     
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    So the **** what? You are presented evidence as a trial judge and you refuse it because it's too late? So expediency is more important than a fair trial. Got it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/15/trump-e-jean-carroll-defamation-lawsuit-dna

    All that's going to happen is it's going to get appealed based on the judge refusing evidence at trial. And trumps gonna win lol
     
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