Trump's unfolding foreign policy disaster

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  1. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Time for a roundup of Trump's achievements on the world stage.

    Trump makes nice with and praises authoritarian and repressive rulers, including the rulers of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Philippines, China and Turkey.

    Trump continues his strange bromance with Vladimir Putin, to the point of DENYING evidence that Russia interfered in our elections, and considering lifting some sanctions imposed on Russia because of its invasion of Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, Trump picks fights with our allies, including Australia, Canada, Mexico and all of Europe. He has undermined NATO and the G7 -- moves that help nobody but Russia. He has called for a trade war with Germany.

    He has declared his intention to pull out of the Paris climate accords, putting the United States at odds with the ENTIRE WORLD. Oh, and he justified it with false evidence and lies about the accord.

    After the recent terror attack in London, Trump picked a Twitter fight with London's mayor.

    The result? We now have our strongest allies telling us to get screwed.

    The entire world condemned Trump for the Paris decision.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/paris-climate-agreement-trump-decision-2017-6

    Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel said Europe can no longer rely on America and must go its own way:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/world/europe/angela-merkel-trump-alliances-g7-leaders.html?_r=0

    Canada, for the first time in its history, finds its foreign policy OPPOSED to the United States:
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...rump-in-foreign-policy-shift/article35217327/

    Trump is destroying America's leadership position in the world, reducing American influence and power, and enabling competing powers to rise up.

    This helps nobody but the dictators Trump is enabling, most especially Putin.

    But hey, at least we got that $110 billion Saudi arms deal, right?

    Not really. Turns out there is no actual deal, just a wish list -- and a wish list the Saudis probably can't afford, given the current low oil prices.

    Oh, and NONE of the deals can be credited to Trump. They were ALL in the works before he got elected.
    http://www.npr.org/2017/06/07/53179...arabia-may-ultimately-be-less-than-advertised

    Just another lie from Trump.
     
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    its actually going pretty well. THose with eyes can see the middle east changing as we type.
     
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    Ok, so the OP is mad, that we aren't engaged in WW3 with Russia.
    Also convinced that Russia made democrats run a corrupt piece of crap like Clinton.
    Mad that Trump makes nice with authoritarians in the Middle East, after years of leftist nut hugging authoritarians like Castro, and Chavez.(Irony)
    And, mad because the the military industrial complex doesn't get billions to spend on Europe's defense, even though they can afford it themselves.
    Mad, because the US isn't going to get involved in a no binding treaty, that will eventually cost the US a couple trillion, and a boat load of manufacturing jobs.

    Wow.
     
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    False.

    False.

    True.

    We're talking about United States official actions, not what imaginary leftists in your head do. The United States never "hugged" Castro or Chavez, not even under Obama or Clinton.

    False.

    Since the treaty is non-binding, how would we be forced to do that?

    Never mind that there are economic opportunities in green energy. By leaving Paris, we are ceding leadership in that area as well.

    Maybe you should try again, this time without the strawmen and falsehoods.
     
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    ITT: buttpained shill doing buttpained shill things.
     
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    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Lack of meaningful response noted.
     
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    raytri Well-Known Member

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    No, not true. Stop lying.

    You don't like Clinton? Wow. Shock. Whatever corruption Clinton is guilty of pales next to Trump.

    Re-establishing diplomatic relations with a country is not "hugging" them. Nowhere did Obama praise the Castro's rule.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/obama-didnt-praise-castro/

    There are only three countries in the world that we don't have diplomatic relations with: Iran, North Korea and Bhutan. During the Cold War, we maintained diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union. The presence of diplomatic relations does not represent approval.

    Great, a spin-filled "report" from the rabidly partisan Heritage Foundation.

    Their basic methodology assumes that fossil fuels are directly connected to economic growth, so reducing their use will shrink the economy.

    In reality, fossil fuel use is not being reduced by fiat: it is being replaced by green energy, and its use is also being reduced through increased conservation and increased energy efficiency. In other words, economic growth is becoming decoupled from fossil-fuel use. Thus shattering the main assumption behind the Heritage "analysis."

    Here's a detailed takedown of the Heritage study. In short, the Heritage study is ideologically biased crap:
    http://www.wri.org/blog/2017/03/heritage-foundation-gets-it-wrong-costs-and-benefits-climate-action
     
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    He's doing this for his puppet master Putin. Even when he shoved the prime minister of Montenegro, it was a symbolic gesture and dog whistle for Putin to show him how Trump is negating NATO. Aside form Trump being aligned with the Russian Oligarchy to benefit his real estate deals, I hope that one day the dirt that Putin has on him is revealed.
     
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    Lack of denial noted.
     
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    Obama: Easy on the wrist, bro!
    I got carpel tunnel from all those nights in the dorm, from smoking weed, and jerking off to fantasies of being a commie revolutionary, underneath posters of Che, and your brother.
    Raul: Me too!! Crazy, right!!??

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    Al-Sisi: Yo, it's been crazy. First Obama jumped ship on my boy, Mubar. Don't call him that by the way, only his bros can. Then Barry got mad about us over throwing the crazy dudes from the Muslim Brotherhood. And now, you got leftist kooks on message boards mad because you're talking to a elected dictator like me. What's up with that??!!
    Trump Hold up, bro. I gotta twitter some **** about Kathy Griffin.
    Al-Sisi: That was some straight up ISIS ****, huh?
    Trump: For sure! Anyway, can you keep **** stable here, and make sure that big ditch remains open, so everyone can get their oil tankers thru? That would be yuge!!!
    Al-Sisi No problem, dude.
     
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    When you have a reality show host, without a script, sitting in as so-called president, you can expect less than success.
    I have yet to hear a cogent explanation from a Trump supporter why all of the so-called president's actions are exactly what Putin would wish for, and I'm not expecting one.
    At least I can take comfort in the fact that the majority of Americans and people of the world realize that our current so-called president is a horrible travesty.
     
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    There is no one that has been in The Oval Office that is as corrupt, clueless, self-serving and as HUGE a fraud as the birther-in-chief, NO ONE! And there has never been a POTUS that has been suspected of treasonous acts against his country...NEVER!
     
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    So you got nothing but denial, and kill the messenger. Sweet, that's what I thought.
     
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    Who the ef do you think you are and maybe you should look up the definition of the word "suspected"...derp derp.
     
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    Wow. What a complete failure of a response. Run along now.
     
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    Accusations by moron leftist kooks mean nothing.
    Where's the proof, Nancy Drew??
    I'll wait.
     
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    Me: Here's data from the Heritege foundation.
    You: I have nothing to refute what they're saying, but they're like Fox News!!!! Slurp slurp

    Now take your own advice.
     
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    By the way Peppermint paddie makes the ridiculous claim of treason, and doesn't even know what treason is.

    Here the text for all the dumbs.
    18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
     
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    I READ the Heritage report you posted. I REBUTTED it, both with my own reading of it and a link to WRI, which itself linked to yet MORE analyses debunking the Heritage report.

    So your claim that "I have nothing to refute what they're saying" is completely false.

    You are lying an awful lot in this thread. Do you think that helps your credibility or your cause?
     
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    But his resorting to childish name-calling certain made an impression on me! :p
     

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