Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

Eric Cramer, 43, who pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in a restricted area and tried to grab a baton from a police officer, was sentenced to eight months in prison. His brother, Country Cramer, 38 -- who entered the Capitol for two minutes on January 6 -- was sentenced to 45 days of home detention after pleading guilty to unlawfully parading or picketing.

 

Yeah, but whatever they deceptively edited, Fox would have been able to show the unedited video. For this reason, none of the left wing networks would have bothered doing that. What's far more likely is that if they had received it, they would not have aired any of it even if they knew that it was damning, in the interest of protecting Democrats.

 

I'm not apologizing. Now you're trying to make up my position.

The protest at the Capitol was wrong and illegal.

What I am pointing out is the blatant defense the left has for partisan driven censorship and the hypocrisy considering events which are absolutley relevant.

 

Oh bull. In the court if public opinion, the media did everything they could to paint Rittenhouse as an aggressive manner. They suppressed the video of him on the defense and being attacked, they even attempted character assassination of him. Only during the trial when they could no longer hide the non-compliant narrative did we actual see the truth along with the acquittal.

Though you are desperately trying to make this about me, it isn't. So I won't encourage you with a response.

Wrong.

in the name of making headlines and driving a partisan agenda, the information was heavily manipulated in the media headlines for months before the trial.

Thats the game the left plays, just like on January 6 which JUST NOW we are seeing the whole picture.

I'll allow you to go back and watch the MSM reporting of the incident and subsequent talking heads for months before the trial occurred.

Look at that, and compare to the information that the acquittal was based on.

The media and the left are absolutley trying to frame the perspective with manipulated dis-information for partisan gain, just like in the Capitol protest.

 

@ECA

I can't help but wonder how many of the individuals in those pictures you show of real vandalism were federal agents or assets like Ray Epps.

99% of those present were calm and peaceful.

 

I never claimed there was 100% participation in rioting. So there's that

 

Good point, but doesn't that assume the other networks care about what Fox shows contrary to them. They are only appealing to their loyal viewers to shape what to believe.

 

Video footage that has been cut, edited, and portrayed with a specific political agenda. The rest is conspiracy theories. Remember, when it came to Q'non Shaman, even the most loyal trump acolytes tried to make him NOT a trump supporter, among other things.

You may want to watch this if Tucker Carlson covered the JFK assassination. Notice it is actual footage of the event, but what Tucker said does not match the record. The same attempt is being done here, now, with January 6th.

 

Except McCarthy's own words were "I made a promise" which means that the footage was only gong to be released to one individual and one individual alone in exchange for whoever made the proposal getting to change their vote.

That being said, eventually, yes, in time, all the networks would have had access. But that would mean that all the defendant's allegations have been adjudicated in two or three years. And in social media, that is ancient history and would not be relevant to the upcoming 2024 election.

 

To be fair, he stopped being a T**** supporter when he was arrested and T**** wouldn't give him an amnesty.

 

That may be true. Have you any thoughts on the presence of agents provocateurs like Epps? Might one draw conclusions based upon the refusal of FBI to answer questions regarding that?

 

Epps? Agent provocateur? Please, once in a while get out of the crazy conspiracy theories sites. His life was made hell on absolutely nothing but a jackass trying to come up with something somehow somewhere truth be damned we need excuses for what we did.

 

Humans conspire, in case you're not aware of that tendency, especially humans in power. As Madison noted, "in truth all men holding power OUGHT to be mistrusted".

Do you understand what common sense is? Do you possess it?

 

The court of public opinion has no bearing on the facts of the case presented in a court of law. If you think it does, you are watching way too many crime drama shows and think they are documentaries. Likewise, Netflix made a "documentary" of a convicted murder suspect, named Stephen Avery, and raised some poignant questions. But he still lost his appeal, even among "liberal appellate courts" for a new trial. This type of court of public opinion is not going to work either for any defendant found guilty, or pled guilty, to whatever crime they committed. They must prove that the video is material and favorable and that they did not commit the crime by the reasonableness standard. But you also have to look at ALL the video of that person, not the part that Tucker is showing you. Hence the problem.

The only one who is in the game of headlines right now is someone named Tucker Carlson, an opinion-based programming show that is trying to tell you that it is not raining outside even though it is raining outside type of argument. Yes, there is 41000 hours of tape, but how much of that tape shows Person X doing in violation of the crime? Or exonerate that person of not doing the crime? On literally all the conservative media sites, traditional and social media, talk radio, and even here, the constant headlines are "the government is lying to you" and "they are not guilty of the crimes they are accused of."

When it comes to trials and the acquittal of KR, acquittal does not mean KR was all innocent. The key is was there any reasonable doubt. If there was, then he should be found not guilty. It does not mean KR is guilty of something. A lot of wrong went that day. A lot of mistakes were made even in trial. When you have a sitting judge to allow the defense to call the victims "thugs" or "criminals" that can taint the juries thinking. Bear in mind, KR own testimony has him stating that he knew Rosenbaum was unarmed. Because he is black, should be considered dangerous. Conservatives love to make the piont that KR was defending himself against Rosembaum who was unarmed but then in the same breadth try to play victimhood for Asley Babbitt who also was unarmed. If you look at both situations, both are more similar than you realize. But given the wide berth of conservative thinking, I guess if someone is conservative and white it is okay and if they are not, they should be damned. And that is the mythos of conservatives want to portray of the two incidents.

The point is you guys are just as much, if not more, guilty of framing the perspective to your political talking points. And that is the ultimate projection in my book

 

And since they were non violent, there is no evidence the bat was ever used as a weapon or used at all..

Eric Cramer states he was struck on his right side by a police officer wielding an asp. He turned around and picked up the officer’s fallen baton. There is no detail of further struggle with the officer
He states he was pushed into the Capitol by the pressing of bodies and was unable to leave because he was trapped in the crowd.
His brother, Country Cramer, eventually found him inside of the building, They exited peacefully without appearing to act violently in any way.

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Country Cramer and his brother Eric became separated at the Capitol. He went inside the building through the main door, found Eric there, and exited. He appears to wear a Trump flag like a cape and is following the crowd, observing peacefully.

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So help me out... this was posted earlier... who is this guy and what is his story? I truly am interested in why Americans would deface a government building.. and no.... I don't think Trump had a zombie spell on any one there that day...

 

It's not a conspiracy theory. Your belief that he isn't involved is a consistent theory. You have to deny video evidence of him inciting a crowd to enter the Capitol building.

What is it some deep fake?

Who's we?

 

I think that is a ploy to try to lessen the sentence and who remorse. In my experience, people will practically say anything to lessen their sentences and not mean a word they say when they say it.

However, long before the sentence, the right-wing media tried to do the following to portray him: they try to portray him as Antifa or BLM with Trump's lawyer Lin Wood making those claims, tried to portray him or disassociate him by saying he was an agent provocateur and maybe even a member of law enforcement, and that he colluded with Nancy Pelosi's son in law, Michael Vos, and hence as "evidence" that Pelosi was behind the attacks. And considering Trump is not known for his discernment or anything else, I can see why Trump would not pardon him at all. Finally, this was all done within a few weeks after he was identified and his image and name was circulated among social media and traditional media.

 

I am sure his name has been identified by LEO. He is either awaiting trial or has pled guilty to some crime that day. Second, in that picture, does it really look like he was "being escorted" into the capitol by Capitol Police? Or how about that was "peaceful" in the eyes of conservatism? But it looks like he was breaking a window to get in by any means necessary with a crowbar or some rod in his hand. and the irony is that very same picture pretty much negates what Tucker is saying on this TV program. Right?

 

Over 900 people have been arrested for being in the building. How does his being in the building differ? Someone made an accusation based on nothing and made his life hell. And his grand kids' lives. There is no lower life form than people who abuse children based on what their grandfather is accused of doing despite absolutely zero evidence. I'm sorry but reading about his grand kids pissed me off royally.

 

When it comes to Ray Epps. This article shows what we know. He is from Arizona, he is 61 years old at the time of January 6th, he runs a wedding and event venue, he is a former member of Oath Keepers, he testified before the Select Committee and is a matter of public record, and he has stated he is a staunch conservative who believed the election was stolen. Nothing in his background remotely hints at being in the FBI or any other law enforcement agency. He basically turned states evidence once he was named a "person of interest" and that is where the conspiracy theories started to begin to this very day.

This is the transcript of the interview of Ray Epps. It is 97 pages long. If you read the transcript, you will find out who is and who is not Ray Epps, none of which are in your favor.

 

I understand that unsubstantiated claim. It's just that it is still unsubstantiated.

I have no idea what you are rambling about now, but your claims remain unsubstantiated. I have as much reason to believe that the election might have been stolen as I do to believe that Trump had a threesome with Sasquatch and Nessie at Area 51. There is nothing distinguishing those two claims.

 

The Inconvenient Truth: Democrat politicians and journalists lie like rugs. I bet you know that.

They just can't stop. Here is the latest Big Fat Lie:

“WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House said on Wednesday that Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson "is not credible," after the right-wing commentator showed footage from the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the U.S. Capitol that portrayed rioters as peaceful.

"We agree with the chief of the Capitol Police and the wide range of bipartisan lawmakers who have condemned this false depiction of the ***unprecedented***, violent attack on our Constitution and the rule of law – ***which cost police officers their lives***,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement.”
REUTERS, Fox News' Tucker Carlson is not credible, White House says after Jan. 6 coverage, Story by By Trevor Hunnicutt and Kanishka Singh, 3/8/23. (*** mine)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-house-says-after-jan-6-coverage/ar-AA18nggv

 

Sorry but this so called evidence that trumptards peacefully stormed the capitol has been debunked.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/08/media/tucker-carlson-white-house/index.html

 

Any and every politician lies as well as journalists, conservative or liberal/democrat. However, look at the original evidence, the trials, the DOJ and everyone involved from defense attorneys to the prosecution to the judges in question. Are all of them lying as well? Yes or no?

As for Tucker Carlson, he is lying to you now and telling you a story that does not match with the evidence in court. He is quite literally trying to whitewash what actually happened on January 6th and that is in and of itself a lie.

 

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LOL! Indict Tucker Carlson now! Please -- do it!

In fact, much of the withheld video was clearly exculpatory -- hence all the desperate squealing from our fully exposed corrupt political establishment.