So much for the "US is a left leaning country" horse apple theory. Nearly twice as many conservatives in the US as libs. And more conservatives than even moderates. And even 1 out of every 5 dems consider themselves conservative. http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx
This country has been goose stepping to the far right for decades. What the Tea ***** don't know is that Reagan was farther to the left than Obama.
WARNING TO TEA ***** AND CONS: This post contains facts! Since we are, improbably but importantly, discussing Ronald Reagan again, I thought it might be worth posting a few graphs on the Reagan economic record. What was the unemployment rate before Reagan and what did it rise to after he took over in 1980. For the teatarded who hate facts and figures the unemployment rate was slightly above 6% and it reached nearly 11% after 2 years of Reaganomics. Reagan gave a huge tax cut to the rich and like liberal spending Bushes Reagan was a spender but compared to the Bush boys he was a bit more responsible. How did Reagan do on debt? Obama on Reagan. * Pride in our country, respect for our armed services, a healthy appreciation for the dangers beyond our borders, an insistence that there was no easy equivalence between East and West- in all this I had no quarrel with Reagan. And when the Berlin Wall came tumbling down, I had to give the old man his due, even if I never gave him my vote. o Barack Obama. Quoted in "The Audacity of Hope" - Page 289 - by Barack Obama Reagan the Liberal Governor. As governor, Reagan was the biggest California spender of the last half century. Under him, state spending leaped 177%. And as president, he spent like the proverbial drunken sailor to expand the Navy and the nuclear missile arsenal while winning the Cold War. He left Washington with a then-record national debt. His first year as governor, Reagan raised taxes equal to 30% of the state general fund, still a modern record. And as president, he increased taxes several times, although conservatives pretend to remember only the one big tax cut. Reagan the tree hunger! As governor, Reagan protected the spectacular John Muir Trail in the Sierra from highway builders and Central Valley business interests. He blocked dam building on the Eel and Feather rivers. He and Republican Gov. Paul Laxalt of Nevada set aside their aversion to centralized, intrusive government and created a bi-state agency to control growth at Lake Tahoe. Reagan signed legislation creating the California Air Resources Board, leading to the nations first tailpipe emissions standards. Today, Reagan would be tagged by his party as an environmental extremist.
Holy Crap. That must be that being a "socialist" and pushing socialist agendas is conservative! I mean, the "right" is saying that Obama and this administration are socialists. Yet, you say that there are twice as many conservatives in the USA than liberals.... So, that must mean that "conservatives" voted for Obama! So, If Obama is a socialist....and conservatives supported him...then conservatives must be socialists! Jesus christ, will the nonsense ever stop?
During that one election, probably so. In general, no. Many conservatives in 2008 were fed up with the RINOs and weren't going to go out of their way to support candidates that did not accurately represent their views.
Now I'm not exactly a fan of Regan, but you're being flat out disingenuous when it comes to how much influence the president has over budgets. I love how people always post graphs showing debt in relation to each president when they are only a small part in the equation. The bigger part that is almost always ignored is the congress that chose where to spend the money and how much to spend. During the period of 1937-2005 (close to what is shown in your graph) only twelve of the sixty-eight years Both the Senate and House were controlled by Republicans. Six of those years the Senate was controlled by one party while the House was controlled by the opposing party, two of those years the Senate was split while the House was controlled by the Republicans. The other forty-eight Both the House and Senate were controlled by Democrats. I'll give you that George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor, he also had four years of both Republican held congress. His father had a Democrat controlled congress and spending didn't magically stop, as you said it went up. Now look at Regan, he had a split Congress for most of his two terms and for the end of his second term he had a Democrat controlled congress. Now when you look at Clinton he mostly had a Republican controlled congress. So maybe we should all learn that it doesn't matter which party has the presidency or congress they both spend like mad. Source
So, what your saying is, that this country (that, as the OP stated is 'mostly' conservative) hasdn't actually elected a conservative for decades? Then why in the hell does the right wing even vote? If ALL of their candidates are lying bastards (like we didn't know that already) that are misreprenting their positions to get elected, then why does the right contintue to eat its own dog crap, poop it out, and eat it again? As for the OP, if any of this were true, it would only coincide completley with the continued "dumbing down of America" that I've feared and seen as long as I have been alive. We're about a generation of another right wing shift to having our very own Taliban in power right in the US, except that they'll be called "Baptists".
What part of the poll confused you? I guess your confusion started with what "I said." Sorry, my last name isn't Gallup. So I didn't say it. Another lib in denial, shocker. What it means is that some conservatives who voted for him didn't get what they expected. Which is why the US has become more conservative since his election.
Graphs are pretty meaningless when you don't know what they mean. For starters, the unemployment rate was already skyrocketing thanks to the absolute failure known as the Carter era. Big shock, they continued to increase under Reagan. Then once his policies were instituted the rate plummeted and we enjoyed the longest peace time boom in history at that point.
Because maybe they know that apply ultraliberal politics like the ones defended by the Tea Party would be the ruin of the country, and they don't want that, and also because the corporations have great power and influence to be beneficiated from politics.
I think the left just shouts the loudest and controls most of the influential sectors of society (entertainment, education, media, etc.) so it's easy to get fooled by this illusion that the entire country must be left wing. But fortunately, the average person seems to have more sense than to buy everything that's being sold to them. They might be swayed by an issue or idea here or there, but for the most part they prefer to think for themselves.
>>>Everybody considers themselves to be conservative in one way or another. For myself, I like guns. And even though I wouldn't interfere with a woman's right to choose, I don't like abortion. And I'd really LIKE a balanced budget, but I don't need one right now if it means 30% unemployment. None of that should be construed to mean that I'd ever in a million years consider voting for one of your goofball frauds.
"As governor, Reagan was the biggest California spender of the last half century." Under Reagan we got our first trillion dollar debt. How long have I been telling you "conservatives" Reagan drummed up just as much business for her "jewish" banker masters (Where do you think OnceAmerica gets the money that comprises the debt?) as Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Truman, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, etc., etc. Reagan also appointed just as many CFR (if you don't know what this is you're definitely not a Conservative) members as advisers and cabinet members too. "Conservatism" and "liberalism" is just the "jews" playing good cop, bad cop, and chuckling to themselves that you're so easily fooled. "Jews" are only "conservative" when it comes to two things: 1) "Defense", i.e. conning their American useful idiots into taking over every economy they want to control, and 2) "Free enterprise", i.e. conning their American useful idiots into allowing them to monopolize every sector of the American economy they want to control. "Jews" founded communism, socialism, and liberalism - the mortal enemies of conservatism. This is historical fact. Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky were all "jews". Read the "jewish" playbook at http://100777.com/protocols. "Jews" are rabidly dedicated to destroying EVERY CHRISTIAN NATION ON EARTH. DEAN BERRY MINISTRIES
What are you talking about, the left? Just come right out and say it: THE "JEWS"! The CEOs of all the major media in America are "jews". You think this is just coincidence? They learned a lot from their former client, Hitler, who said one of the first things you do is take control of the media. The "jews" began doing this in earnest right after WW2.
Twice as Many Conservatives as Liberals in the US ? If there is "Twice as Many Conservatives as Liberals in the US" ........then, that is obviously not enough. There should be, at least, twice as that more in order to even approach correction of the damage done to our country by the liberal swine.
Liberals are political idiots that should be beamed, asap, to La La Land where they can flippety-flop with the other loonie birds.
As the Public schools' movement to dumb down the massess in the USA is acheiving their goal. You can expect more stupid people as adults. We now have 2 generations of idiots who were the product of dropout factories of US public education. Hence, more conservative thinking. simple ideas, and propaganda will sell. This is bad for human evolution and the USA's future. But, it is good for consumerism. Keep them fearfull, dumb, and religious. And you can manipulate the massess with ease. America is in the mode of de-evolution. We are striving to going back to the 1800s mentality and lifestyles.
Yes, let's ignore the fact that most liberals prefer to not identify themselves as liberal because it's been made taboo by every republican commentator and politician for the last 50 years. Also, moderates are substantially more left-leaning and the majority of Americans are more libertarian than anything else.
The further to the right we go, the worse off the nation becomes. Conservatism is the problem, not the solution.
So Bush spent 8 trillion dollars (over that actually, considering the surplus left by Clinton), and Obama spent 5 trillion to make the national debt 13 trillion? I fail to see how this helps your point.
So if raygun gets a pass, does Obama for the same reasons? It took raygun 6 years or more to bring down unemployment but you all expect Obama to do it in 6 months, with a Congress that blocks everything, good and bad.
Trotsky and Lenin were both atheists, not Jews. And as far as I know there's no record of Marx's religion.
