Ugandan Homosexuals sue pastor for "crimes against humanity" ; quoting from the Bible

If the church can't exist without calling for gays to be murdered, then maybe it shouldn't exist.

 

Implication: Any one who is gay who voices a different opinion, one that doesn't call for Lively to be silenced, is not an "honest homosexual".

Gee, thanks for calling me a liar. I don't think Lively should be silenced. I think the best weapon against hate speech is not curtailing such speech, but more speech aimed at bringing to light the things that people like Lively are advocating.

I will just point out that the lawsuit says it's not about his speech, but his conduct. I don't think it's legally sound, but claiming that it's an attempt to silence Lively (rather than one aimed at holding him accountable for his actions) stands in direct contradiction of the complaint.

Are you at all interested in discussing the lawsuit? (Have you even read the complaint?) Or is this thread just a flamebait that seeks to stereotype homosexuals as trying to silence people who disagree with them?

 

Correct, he wants gays locked into mental institutions against their will. How is that not punishment?

 

I say let him yak, he does more harm than good for his so called cause in addition to making it easier for people who are considering leaving the church to leave.

 

lol yes, keep ignoring the facts and making up lies. show me the punishments he has in mind and we can go from there lol.

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you are incorrect until you show he wants to lock them up at all.

 

thank you for discussing a forum member and not the topic. It adds tremendous value to the thread

 

If the documentary I watched was accurate (and it seemed to be) his yaking has done his cause a world of good in Uganda. But ultimately you may be right. As word has gotten out the laws he proposed are not going anywhere.

 

EXACTLY!!!!! It is no different than the nonsense we hear from leftists. It's good to let them speak.

 

You need to read up on this guy. He still thinks that homosexuality is a mental illness. When he calls for "rehabilitation" what he is calling for is for homosexuals to be imprisoned against their will and brainwashed until they are no longer homosexual.

 

and that is his right to think that. This is what scares the crap out of me. Leftists want to legislate what people can think. At this stage, there is no medical test to confirm whether or not one is born heterosexual or chooses to be heterosexual. It's the same with homosexuality so in that regard, it's all opinion based including the opinions of the APA

 

There you have it. Lively thinks homosexuality should remain criminalized in Uganda, and does advocate forced therapy as an alternative to imprisonment.

http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/03/br...tion-of-homosexuality-and-compulsory-therapy/
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i did read upon this person from one of your like minded buddies links and i found no proof of your assertion, pretty much the opposite of the mud you are trying to sling.

please show me where he said he wants homosexuals locked up against their will until they are "healed" .

 

He can think that all he wants. The instant that he starts pressure legislatures to implement his ideas at the expense of other people's liberty, then he has stepped over the line.

 

I'm not "discussing a forum member". I'm asking you to address the statements made by the man you're defending.

Pull this again and I'll report you for trolling your own thread.

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http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...st-humanity-quoting-bible.html#post1063038460

 

he can also lobby all that he wants as well. You can do the same. I would not deny you that.

 

You do not have the right to try and restrict the freedoms of others. Remember that saying "your rights end where another's begin"?

 

exactly!!! that is one thing which many forget about individual liberty. I might not agree with any of your leftist positions but I must honor your right to speak out about them, lobby politicians, air commercials etc.

 

My positions are on the side of individual liberty. Your compatriot that you are defending want to throw the individuals liberties of gays out the window. He has no right to attempt to lobby to do so.

 

Poor Christians, being killed for their beliefs. Oh wait, no, it's the Christians that want to jail and/or kill gay people.

Christians want to kill gays - you don't care.

Some gay group wants to pursue legal action against a single Christian who encouraged a country to make their sexual orientation a crime - it's a terrible war on Christianity itself.

You're so persecuted.

 

Speaking of the Christian war against homosexuals.....

Ugandan Parliament Speaker Rebecca Kadaga, who last month promised the passage of the Anti-Homosexuality Act as a “Christmas gift to Christians,” yesterday appeared in Vatican City to receive blessing of the Pope. From the website of the Uganda Parliament:


Kadaga who led a delegation of Ugandan legislators to the Vatican expressed delight at meeting the Pope and visiting St Peter’s Basilicca. “I think this is a moment that cannot be repeated. We have been reading about him, hearing stories about St.Peter’s Basilica but now we are here physically. I think it is something that I will remember all my life. Its a very great moment and I thank God for this opportunity,” she said minutes after meeting the Pope. The Speaker dedicated to all Ugandans readings from the book of St. Mark which the Pope quoted in several languages during



And what does this Ugandan law do?

It prohibits the "promotion" of gay rights and calls for the punishment of anyone who "funds or sponsors homosexuality" or "abets homosexuality".

i.e. - it prohibits free speech in Uganda.

There does appear to be a war alright- a war by Christians against homosexuals.

 

I defend his right to say it, no more, no less.

 

He can talk about it all he wants. The instant he starts pressuring the government to violate the rights of others, then he has gone to far.

 

in your opinion. I view that as no different than any other special interest which lobbies governments, including the homosexual activists.

 

Homosexual activists in many cases aren't interfering with anyone's individual liberty.

 

And what rights of others are these homosexual activists trying to lobby against?