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every government in the world is on side with the science, every scientific organization is on side with the science....but you and assorted forum keyboard chatroom experts live in an alternate reality where this isn't the situation....not much I can do to wake you from your delusions....

 

We were entering an ice age in the 1970s that all of these scientists and all of these country governments were sure was going to happen. It got so ludicrous that the leading scientists suggested salting the glaciers with carbon.

The scientists were all sure the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth.

It's the deniers that proved them all wrong.

Science + Politics = Politics

 

I suppose the supporters Catholic Church felt the same as you do when they tormented Galileo and Copernicus. but then religion is about money power and control and so is AGW so your opinions are hardly surprising

 

You really need to brush up on your history.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-about-global-cooling.html

 

Ah, the cartoonists CAGW advocacy blog. Seems that is all the warming alarmists ever read.

 

Oh contrar, Here is the info, a news interview, now you can debate whether it is what he meant to say, but dude, he said it:

'by Seth Finkelstein
Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN's 'Late Edition'

BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.

Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. "

The guys ego is so big, I truly believe he thinks he invented it. LOL.

BTW, it was Repub. Dick Armey that called him on it.

 

As much as I dislike Gore I do have to give the devil his due on this one. While his High Performance Computing Act of 1991 simply built on the concepts of the ARAPANET and NSFnet it did spur research and development into the technology that led to browser software like Mosaic among other things. He did not "invent" the internet per say but he did provide the spark that led to the research and development of a lot of the webs early technology.

 

Perhaps, I was merely responding to the posters insane post that Gore never said he invented the internet. He said it. I don't believe the man ever created any software, so invention is a long way away from reality. Maybe he approved money for research, but him inventing, naw.

But hey, why not let ego get in the way of a speech.

 

But his quote doesn't say he programmed the Internet. It says that as a senator, he "took the initiative" in creating the Internet -- i.e., he pushed through legislation that helped bring the Internet into existence.

Which is true.

 

not worth quibbling over the semantics in my opinion and nothing to do with his current scam. The man is a giant ass with enough money to buy a small island yet he is determined to create energy poverty in the US just so he can add a few more billion to his tally sheet

 

Again, the poster said he never said it. He did say it.

 

He did not say he "invented the Internet." Jeebus.

 

ok, created the internet.

 

I'll take facts wherever I find them.

 

Facts? hahahahahahaahahahahaha. Silly

 

yes there is a difference, if there wasn't the rightwing world wouldn't keep insisting on repeating the lie "invented" instead of created...and yes he did a lot to pave the way for the internet as we know it, and he has received acknowledgement for his important contribution...

 

The fact that Sceptical Science is backed by the prestigious University of Queensland or that the website owner (John Cook) has a degree in Solar Physics and is the climate science communication fellow for the UQ and has won a Eureka Award is less important to the denialists than the fact he has also had a paid hobby as a cartoonist - seems a bit of the old tall poppy syndrome happening

 

looking at his bio it says he majored in solar physics, no mention of him ever getting a degree. Anyway a few years back I watched 3 of my neighbors try and change a air filter on ones vehicle. One is a law professor at a private college, one has a doctorate in special education, the other had a masters in Biology and could not figure out how. Luckily one of their 15 year old sons did it for them. There is no degree in common sense I am aware of.

If there were your country never force it's citizens to choose between food and heating/cooling their homes just so the corporations and politicians can prosper

These type of taxes hurt the poor the most. The rich still can afford thier private planes and yachts, the middle class may have to cut back a bit on luxuries but the poor who are living paycheck to paycheck cant afford the increase in the home electrical bills. I cannot understand people who hate their neighbors as much as the green energy wonks do and cause them to suffer needlessly so corporate fat cats and politicians can add a few million more to their net worth



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...e-to-act-is-now/story-e6frg75f-1226833098593#
Late last year the NSW Energy and Water Ombudsman reported that there had been a 43 per cent rise in the number of complaints in 2012, to 25,612, from people being denied extensions for time to pay or being disconnected, and this would “continue to rise”.

A Salvation Army’s survey late last year of people it has helped found that 58 per cent could not pay their utility bills on time, 27 per cent could not afford to heat or cool just one room and some families were gathering around the kitchen table to use just one light and were sharing rooms for warmth.

Of course, there are various reasons for the sharp rise in electricity prices in Australia, including over-investment, poor management and the carbon tax. But the RET is a policy impact without the household concessions that applied to the carbon tax and one which is subsidised by the taxpayers who are paying the higher power prices.


In July last year, for one small business, the carbon tax accounted for 10 per cent of the electricity bill while the RET charges made up 6.3 per cent.

 

UQ lists him as a post doctoral fellow - so that suggests at least one degree. As for your anecdote - it is exactly that - how many car mechanics that you know of have the ability to research a topic, compose a treatise and publish it?

That is not the choice - the choice is a little hardship now so our children can prosper

And climate change is hurting the poor of the world NOW far more than a few extra dollars from a few industrialised nations

Energy price hikes in Australia have less to do with tax and more to do with lying greedy bastards who are using an excuse to milk as much profit as they can

 

The carbon tax is just the icing on the cake, the politicians cut you might say. All of the green energy policies ypour government adapted have caused Australia to shift away from cheap carbon fuel based fuel. You are partly correct on the corporations though. Solar and wind corporations are raking in billions and the coal industry was not hurt because they just sell the coal to countries like China and India. A win/win for the millionaires and politicians while the poor and middle class get screwed. The Chinese and the Indian corporations love it too. The Australian economy gets the shaft and theirs gets the energy Australia decided has shunned

Same thing is happening here at a slower pace. Billionaire green energy interests like Tom Steyer accumulate another billion or two for pledging a paltry 50 million to the Democrats. harry Reid clears the way for Chinese solar companies and in exchange his sons law firm gets commissions from a 5 billion dollar deal

Meanwhile gullible greenies gobble up the lies and argue on boards like this while their electrical bills get higher and higher and their jobs shift to India and China

 

U.S. electricity prices may be going up for good

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-power-prices-20140426,0,6329274.story#ixzz306BaHmWI

The second most powerful Democrat lobby is the Green Lobby who is only interested in destroying union jobs and making sure the poor have to pay more for their energy for a misplaced notion that they are "saving the planet". For instance, the pipeline from Canada has passed all government hurdles and is ready to be approved but Obama will do not such thing? Why? Green contributions to democrat campaigns will dry up as promised.

 

Anybody seen the photos of the Great Lakes still frozen over? In Texas we had the 13th coldest winter on record. So it's not called Global Warming anymore it's called climate change. Well, get your head out of the sand, the earth has cooled and heated for thousands of years. In other words, our planet has had climate change for eons. Man has nothing to do with it and cannot change it. All the Al Gores, Hillary Clintons, and Obamas who plan to get filthier rich selling carbon credits can't prove it. There are just as many "scientific studies" , if not more, that indicate it's nothing more than speculation by the rich who want to get even richer.

 

There is a reason he is studying psychology since his blog is an advocacy website. Of course, there is now a problem with UQ.

An Open Letter puts the University of Queensland in a dilemma over John Cook’s ’97% consensus’ paper