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I got his point but i repeat one more time we talking specifically about laws against russian language. Also people who demand to save their language is a Freedom Fighters too.

So something happened to you or your relatives? Why you so hateful?

 

you are lying, even right sector is ok with Russian language, all Ukr leadership have Russian as a 1 language. and you know it...stop your useless kiselev´s urinal propaganda .

me? you guys stared WW3. and think that we ´d be ok with it? do you know what we all are gonna suffer , all?

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Bulgaria said good bye to "south stream", Putler - 16 billiards
http://economics.unian.net/energetics/908819-bolgariya-demontirovala-trubyi-yujnogo-potoka.html

 

an agent , arrested March 10

 

Litwin. You not able to hold constructive dialog. Change of topics, generalization, stereotypes, insults, hate, lol-pictures and someone's urinal is your best friends.

 

here is summary of your constructive dialog. question: which of your lies is constructive ?

Source: U.S. Department of State.


Putler´s urinal

 

We started with language problem. You claim me as a lair but not showing me where i'm wrong. And now giving this wall of text which has only this "“were not under pressure or threat because of their language.” about initial topic. I will not explain away. As i said - you can't hold constructive dialog. Why should i waste my time on you? Stay on your position. I don't care.

 

now, its you who has stared the once again Putler´s propaganda waves on this forum . RL you are using as the smoke shells in order to cover your military actions in Ukraine. everyone knows it, so stop your BS.

 

Yeah yeah whatever. On previous page you said that I started Third World War. Fine. Keep feed you paranoia - enemies everywhere.

 

paranoia? where is your army are in the barracks? not in Crimea and Donbas ?

 

[video=youtube;8XSFzYiBnw0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8XSFzYiBnw0[/video]

 

[video=youtube;zf69i7EFBxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zf69i7EFBxg[/video]

the oligarchs are behind pro-ruSSian collaborationist...

 

It looks like I can not live without talking to you even on vacation From the response of Putin to Babushka that Russia does not want Alaska, I may conclude that Putin tries to calm down the people What do you mean by capitulate? Give back Crimea to Ukraine? I do not think it will happen, the things are too much far advanced, the wheel is not possible to stop, even if one wanted it. I do not know who are his strategs now (before it was Vladislav Surkov), but if I was one, I would suggest to use Crimea as condominium-when both of the countries rule the territory. Antarktida is a good example, when many countries use the land.

 

And what about Falkland Islands?
Connect them with the British Islands?

Sorry, but your argumentation is pathetic, you are making a fool of yourself.

 

What you have just posted and implied is not a reality.

The Falkland Islands were INVADED by Argentina as regardless of what the past history of such islands was there was NOT a referendum voted upon by people living upon the Falkland Islands that was a referendum specific to becoming a part of Argentina.

This is completely different from what is an Illegally Created Referendum in the Crimea.

If Crimean's wanted to succeed from the Ukraine they could have legally created a referendum but instead an illegal referendum was created as Russia has massive influence in the Crimea.

As far as the Falklands....Argentina just decided to invade the islands as their position was the islands should be a part of Argentina....they did not VOTE upon a Referendum as members of the Falkland Islands as the number of the Non-British Population were tiny.

AboveAlpha

 

Well, the so called "Ukrainian language" was in the past just a Russian dialect of Small-Russian peasants (Govor).

This was the language of primitive peasants in Western parts of Small Russia (Malaya Rus), which was just part of All Rus, which was composed of Small Rus, New Rus, Belo Rus (or white Rus) and Great Rus.

The speakers themselves called their language "simple language" (prostaya mova)., it was the language of simple uneducated peasants, and it remained like that till today, you cannot make the language more sophisticated when you suddenly declare a vernacular language to an official language.

The term "Ukraine" did not exist in the past, it is just a recent invention of some crazy people, and the Bolsheviks supported these crazy people and gave great chunks of Great Russia and New Russia to Small Russia (today Ukraine), they renamed Small Russia into Ukraine, which just means "Province" in old Russian language.

But all Russian intellectuals, be they Small Russians (Ukrainians), New Russians (Crimea and today South-East Ukraine, a territory that was under the Muslim Occupation and reconquered by Russian Tzars), Belo-Russians and Great Russians (today Russian Federation) used the standard Russian language (today the official language of the Russian Federation).

Yes, all Russian peasants (be they Small Russians, New Russians, Belo Russians or Great Russians) spoke their local dialects in the past. And the local Russian dialects in Small Russia and Belo-Russa became due to the Bolsheviks official languages in these former provinces of the Tzarist Russia.

The standard Russian language, developed by the Russian intellectuals, like Pushkin and Gogol (he was a Small Russian), became the spoken language of almost ALL Great Russians and New Russians, because of the efforts of intellectuals in the regions of Great Russia (RF) and New Russia (today Crimea and South-East Ukraine).

As we see, the modern standard Russian language is more similar to the old Russian language, that was spoken in the Kiev Rus.

The today Small Russians (Ukrainians) and Belorussians just lost their original Old-Russian language, they adopted a lot of Polish words due to the Polish occupation. These Russian peasants were just linguistically subjugated by Poles, that is the reason why they lost their original language.

What to educated Small Russians (like Gogol), they preferred the original literary old Russian language, that is still used in the Orthodox Russian liturgy in Kiev, and due to the efforts of Gogol or Pushkin the original Russian language was developed into the modern Russian language, which has a huge vocabulary, many words are borrowed from French, German and English.

As we see, the "Ukrainan" Gogol (he was one of the greatest Russian writers and he helped to develop the modern Russian language) could speak the vernacular language (govor) of Small Russian peasants (today called Ukrainian), and he could also speak the modern Russian language, which was the spoken language of educated Small Russians.

BTW, the greatest German writer Schiller could also speak two languages. The modern German language, and the vernacular language of the peasants of Swabia.

As we see, the greatest German writer and poet was a speaker of the vernacular language of Swabians, that was the native language of all peasants in the region he was born. My native language is the Swabian Dialect, but I learned Hochdeutsch at school, that is why I use my native Swabian language when I talk to Swabian peasants, but I use the standard German language when I talk to educated persons.

There are still a lot of peasants in Baden Württemberg (the region I am living), but we do not have any idiots here who want to make the swabian dialect into the official language of Baden Württemberg and ban the standard German language, who was also developed by Swabians, like Shiller.

But in the Ukraine there were a lot of primitive peasants who managed to make their vernacular language into the official language of an artificial state, created by Bolsheviks out of the Small Russia and New Russia.

That is the tragedy of Ukraine, which is an artificial creation!


The so-called "Ukrainian language" was the language of uneducated Small Russian peasants who lived under the linguistic subjugation of Poles and who developed a kind of Polish-old-Russian pidgin for peasants.

And you cannot change this in a few years, you cannot make a language of primitive peasants into a modern language, that does not work and most Russian speakers will never support the crazy people who want this to happen.

Most Ukrainians can better express themselves using the modern language (ALL Ukrainians can speak modern Russians and most of them speak Russian better, than Ukrainian), and most Ukrainians prefer Russian television to their vernacular Ukrainian television.

Most people are not aware that Ukrainians call themselves Russians in their own language, and some American idiots even beleive that Russians and Ukrainians are two different people that have a different history.

In reality the so-called "Ukrainian people" is just an invention of Bolsheviks who needed the support of all kinds of crazy people in the former Russian Empire in order to topple the Tsarist Regime in Russia.

As the Swabians are part of the German people, so Small-Russians (today called Ukrainians) are part of the Russian people.

 

A member of this forum can rationalize and provide any number of excuses why Putin and Russia should be allowed to annex the Crimea.

But all of that makes no difference as Putin and Russia specifically PROMISED the United States if it paid for and destroyed the multitude of Soviet Nuclear and Chemical Weapons that existed in the Ukraine....Russia promised the U.S. Russia would never send in troops into the Ukraine.

If the U.S. had not purchased and destroyed those Soviet Weapons they would be RIGHT NOW pointed at Moscow.

Putin and Russia have to realize that the days when a Russian Leader made a threat and the U.S. and Europe actually worried are long gone.

The reality now is that the Russian Economy is tiny and fragile and the U.S. could easily economically destroy the Russian Economy but that is not something we want to do.

It is time for Putin to grow up as Russia cannot expect to be allowed to participate in a Free Market System and then behave as if it was 1970 all over again.

AboveAlpha

 

BBC

the terrorists say NO...

 

Putin is the only one who will get them to leave...and if he wants to make this deal he will.

AboveAlpha

 

terminology : your have mixed Rus´ with Russia . Modern Russian (Moscovy,"Moskovskij" ) language was created in only XVIII c,

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of coz, old school ...

 

Falkland Islands is legal part of "British Empire"
how many live in Falkland Islands?
do they have industries ?
+ UK is way better administrator then RF ...

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its impossible , SHADOW PROJECTION: THE FUEL OF WAR
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/shadow-projection-the-fuel-of-war/ and http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com...the-masses-to-call-for-their-own-enslavement/

just turn Crimea into another Abkhazia...

 

Well, the Russian Tsars were Tsars of Rus (Цари всея Рус&#1080.

Русь and Россия are the same in modern Russian.

The term Русь is still used in Russian language and especially folkloric language.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Святая_Русь
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/&#1050...0;_хорошо

"Russia" (Россия( is a literary term, derived from the Greek language.

Every Russian can understand that Rus and Russia is the same word, here is a modern popular Russian song, and they interchange the terms "россия" "русь" in this song:

https://www.google.com/#q=я+&...03;+русь+english+wiki

 

Yes, and India was also a legal part of the "British Empire". But the population of India decided that they will become a separate independent country, and that mattered more that the British law.

Who cares about the laws colonial powers, be it Britain or Ukraine?

It the inhabitants of colonies do not want to be part of the empire any more, then you cannot prevent this process.



In any case, there was a referendum on these Islands (like on the Crimean Peninsula), and it does not matter, how many people live there.

The only thing that matters is that Crimean peninsula is not separated from Russia by a big ocean, like it is the case with the Falkland Islands.

 

so what? its jut a title. the grand dukes of Lithuania called themselves for rulers of all Rus as well

check out the German old documents/Books , until XVIII c. you called Russia for Moscovy