UK's Impoverishment Acclerates: Jobseekers Told To Work Without Pay Or Lose Insurance

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by janpor, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    Not to mention the subsequent drain on society.

    If I was out of work and claiming benefits, I'd feel obliged to help my local community. The guilt would be too much to sit on my arse. The problem is that in many places in the UK (and probably many other countries), we are 3 generations into this attitude, so the kids are brought up with a very different value set to us. This cycle has to end, I'd rather it change by providing opportunity, but the kids need to be changed at school age, so they take the education chances in front of them. This isn't going to happen, so we need a new tactic; in this case making people, many of whom have never contributed into the system that they take from work for government pay.

    Hell, they might even understand the satisfaction of working and being paid for that work.
     
  2. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if you're really looking for work, you'll accept reasonable offers of work experience or training. The problem that kicked off this thread isn't the principal of the compulsory work experience, it's the fact the system(s) is poorly managed and controlled.
     
  3. raymondo

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    As a diversion , Leffe , let's run with events as they spiral ever lower .
    The base point was the first Feral Revolution , which the rest of the world blindly assumed was rioting in the UK this Autumn
    This was the Feral Class protesting at the arrest of a yob criminal on a London Estate . They tried to flex their muscles by using mob tactics against the Police .
    Face Book and other so called Social Network sites allowed Ferals to communicate long distance for the first time in their lives and Twitter solved the problem of their illiteracy . Loss of Adjectives , Adverbs and common nouns all replaced by five swear words .
    It lasted the proverbial five minutes because the Ferals had no agenda other than Thieving , Looting and being Feral publicly .
    But look what will happen once the French and Spaniards start rioting -- they at least will have agendas , albeit pie in the sky socialist tosh mantras .
    They can riot with the best of them and the UK Ferals will imagine they have found Soul Brothers and Sisters
    ( I deliberately ignore the Greeks and Italians because they have been regular losers for longer than most of us can imagine ).
    Now Anarchy will be so great that finally the Middle Class will enter the battle .
    At this point , the power elite will be privately overjoyed as the spot light will be temporarily removed from them .
    But in the streets the battle will rage . After initial losses , the middle Class will use their money to equip themselves and if they are smart they will buy mercenary help to give the Ferals a good thrashing .
    But mayhem will rule for awhile .
    I do hope it is after the Olympics because I am a huge Sports fan .
     
  4. tamora

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    I'm not defending the rioters, but the yob wasn't just arrested he was shot and killed in the attempted arrest. I hope the government, the police and the courts will manage the streets before we are driven to use mercenaries. What a horrible country we will become if they don't.
     
  5. Leffe

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    Did they establish if he had a gun or not? If he did, regardless of whether or not he fired it, or even had it on show, my sympathy would decrease.
     
  6. raymondo

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    I certainly was not taking specific issue with you .
    The full details behind the killing of Mark Duggan have yet to be made public .
    The police were investigating Gun Crimes within the Black community ( Operation Trident) and at least one unfired gun was found at the scene -- a starting gun which had been adapted to fire live ammunition .
    This all happened on August 4 th and two days later there was a march and that is when matters " kicked off" . Perhaps the police should have forced its delay for at least a few days .
    But I am more interested in the evolution and distinctions between Feral Anarchy ( this incident) as a new sort of protest compared to Middle Class anarchy or out and out riots by extremists ( any excuse to tear the system down as an end in itself ).
     
  7. tamora

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    This seems to be the latest report.

    There was a weapon in a shoe box (of all things!) in the back of the car, but Duggan's fingerprints were not found on it. It's still not clear as to what really happened, but the investigation goes on.

    I'm not sure I have much sympathy with him either way tbh if the reports from people who knew him are anything to go by, you get involved in gang rivalries and there's a good chance you'll pay the price, but I can understand how tempers rose in the local area when the news of his death broke.
     
  8. tamora

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    Or perhaps the police should have invited the march's leaders to talk in order to calm the situation down?

    Middle class anarchy? I doubt the middle class will become anarchists. Civil disobedients is the closest they'll come I think. -
     
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    the rioters were massively criminal, of those arrested 80 percent had a criminal record, not quite the middle class.
     
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    The descendants of slave traders keeping the family tradition going.

    The Tories want everyone in Britain to be their slaves.
     
  11. Anders Hoveland

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    For the life of me I just cannot imagine how so many english fail to see the connection between all the migrants they have taken on and the increasing impoverishment of their working class.

    I am not against helping the poor in other countries- just give them money in the countries they are already living in. Why make them have to come to Britain before they can get free things?

    Providing them with education and healthcare would be cheaper in the countries they came from, where the costs are much lower.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    They don't have to take the check.

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    Would defeat the purpose of the left, free sheep that vote for the left because they fully rely on benefits and wellfare.
     

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