UN commission says Israel committed war crimes during Gaza border protests. <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. But I got no problem hearing that what Israel does, is being done by others as well. I doubt there is a government on the planet whose army actually shoots at the press, health workers, the disabled and children. I think ISIS would do such things. And if so than it's fair to say that Israeli Jews voted in a bunch of creeps who are on par with ISIS. Says a lot what the average Israeli Jew is like.

    edit.... lol
    He just did make that comparison
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Yeah, I hate it when those Jews behead people, burn them in cages, throw them off roofs, just disgusting.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True it is interesting that Israeli supporters always look at the very worst of humanity to compare Israel against. Bibi is a nice guy if you compare him to Stalin!
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No sorry, the "pebbles" form a more deadly weapon - propaganda.
    Propaganda leads to world sympathy.
    World sympathy leads to not having to cut a deal with the Jews.

    Gaza was offered a sea port, airport, rail line, industrial parks, work
    permits and much more. They took the killing of four Palestinians in
    a car crash to start an Intifada instead. This relieved them of the
    need to accommodate Israel. Together Palestine and Israel would
    be a formidable force - high tech and entrepreneurship with a ready
    supply of cheap labor.
    So now it's back to killing the "sons of pigs and monkeys" and wasting
    the billions in aid poured into Palestine.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could not believe it! He really did!
     
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    Aha... you're claiming what Israel does is just like ISIS.
    So it's fair enough to say the Israeli government acts like a terrorist organisation. And that your average Israeli Jew voted in them terrorists. That the fast majority of Israeli Jews is part of the IDF (at one point in their life), the institute who does them terrorist acts. And fair enough for the UN to condemn this country full of terroristic Jews. I have little problems that terrorists are killed, and that people protest against terrorism. Do you have a problem with our war against terror? Because it seems you're a supporter of terror.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually like most of the Israeli creation myth it was the early Zionists whose racist attitude precluded the Palestinians from any possible agreement.
     
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    There is absolutely no sympathy for a government whose army was send in to kill the press, children, health workers and the disabled.
    Nobody made them Jews do that.

    All them offers, were all still about violently oppressing Muslim rights in the end. Israel never offered anything substantial... like what the world has agreed to what aint Israel and so part of Palestine and nothing remotely substantial of what them Jews stole from them 700.000 Arabs civilians they ethnically cleansed. And you're just now deflecting away from the behavior of these Jews, who are on par with ISIS.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    And here we have a people firing rockets into civilian areas, targeting children, old, disabled, anyone they hit.

    And then we have some Palli supporter saying Jews are doing that,
     
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    No-one has ever defined the term "racist" to me (nor 'sexist' or
    'imperialist' for that matter.)
    So in any argument I have to figure out what the arguer means.
    In this case yes, a Jewish state is 'racist" because it's for the Jews.
    And Palestine is "racist" because it's for the Arabs.
    Jews wanted to share Palestine with Arabs, but Arabs didn't want
    to share Palestine with the Jews.
    That makes Arabs racist on a higher level.
    And when Palestinians call Jews "sons of pigs and monkeys" I take
    that to mean Palestinians are sexist (sons) and specist (pigs etc) and
    racist to boot.
    And Arabs take Jewish racism to a whole new level with thousands of
    rockets fired at Israel, plus tunnels, bogus media campaigns to garner
    sympathy instead of cutting a deal with Israel, corrupting the whole
    purpose of the UN, supporting terror, destroying the future of their
    own people, brainwashing their kids and etc etc etc etc..
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No we have the UN claiming that the Israelis are doing that, with lots of evidence.
     
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    Sure, the way they toss people off buildings, behead anyone they want, burn people in cages. stuff like that.
     
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    That is a blatant lie.

    Israels targets are military
    Pallie targets are civilian

    And the pallie military is not even wearing uniforms.
    They used to get shot for that as a spy.
    But they can claim they were civilians.
     
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    You're distracting away from your own comparison that Israel acts like ISIS, a terrorist organisation.
    I have little problems with a war against terror. And here you are supporting terror.

    That's besides that everybody is well aware that those civilian area's you talk about, are area's who the Jews ethnically cleansed. Them people who live there aint the rightful owners. I know it, you know it, they know it. If they don't like to be shot at, than they can just give up the lands to the rightful owners. I mean... really... in the US you got the freaking right to defend your property that way. Perfectly normal.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I pointed out you are accepting the Zionist Creation Myth, firstly what about the Palestinian Christians that the Zionists have attacked, marginalised in their own country? Here is what Ben Gurion said.
    Everybody sees a difficulty in the question of relations between Arabs and Jews. But not everybody sees that there is no solution to this question. No solution! There is a gulf, and nothing can bridge it… We, as a nation, want this country to be ours; the Arabs, as a nation, want this country to be theirs.
    • Written statement (June 1919), as quoted in Time magazine (24 July 2006)
     
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    Indeed. I asked you what Muslim country sends it's army to kill the press, health workers, children and the disabled... as what Israel does. And your example is ISIS. Hence your comparing Israel, the IDF, the people who join the IDF, the Israeli government, their voters... with ISIS. Congrats. And no.. it doesn't look like I will let this go.
     
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    Are there any other groups you can toss in there too? Like, don't Jews
    shoot Palestinian dogs? What about babies in prams? So the Israeli
    govt sent its soldiers with the brief to shoot journalists and target disabled
    people. Yeah, right, my BS indicator is sounding off.
    Fact is, Hamas fires rockets and digs tunnels and sets fires to kill Jewish
    journalists, children, health workers and the disabled. And none of these
    aforementioned Jews ever went to the security fence (yes, security) with
    the aim of tearing it down and slitting the throat of every Palestinian.
    Smoke, stones, handicapped people, children etc are propaganda for
    Western journalists and useful idiots. All of them put there in harms way
    to further the racist cause of killing the Jews.
     
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    Sorry, in the US you are not allowed to defend your property with terror to others.
     
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    True. It became evident in the first Intifada that Palestine wouldn't
    cut a deal with the Jews that would have given them most of the
    land and made them rich.
    Well actually, as many Middle East commentators have observed,
    the Palestinians will do a deal with the Jews - but the last deal, the
    one now removed from the table. That's been going on since 1948.
     
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    Hold it.

    You just made up something and you are asking me to compare it to another.

    You know Israel does not target press, health workers, children and the disabled..
     
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    And Muslims do not have to keep their deals they make with the kafir.
     
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    Sorry... defend YOUR ground law, is perfectly acceptable in the US. And you know, I know and them Israeli Jews know... them grounds rightful owners are them Arabs they ethnically cleansed. Innocent people standing around them, know as well. Collateral damage is nasty. Using your children as human shield is also nasty.
     
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    Well we'll never know if the offer made to Palestine was "substantial."
    The Palestinians didn't want to know.
    Accepting the remarkably generous deal Israel made to them would
    mean accepting Jews owning land that once belonged to Arabs.
    Some of this land was legally bought, most abandoned and some
    seized. But all of it had to be in Arab control or no deal.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it has been going on before 1948 it started when massive immigration of Eastern European arrived in Palestine. They brought terrorism with them and at no point wanted anything other than their own state, stolen from the indigenous population.
    12% were Jewish, 12% were Christian and the rest Muslim in 1900.
     
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    You got no source.

    Nope. They just want them people off their land. Them Arab civilians got ethnically cleansed, and according to a very normal stand your ground law, you can use deadly force to protect your own property.
     

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