UN gets $100M in new funds for Palestinian "aid" after US cuts

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  1. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    They TRIED to steal the land from Israel. The second they pulled away from the 1948 agreement and attacked Israel they lost all standing.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    bigotry is far worse than religion.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you say so. I know of religion that rewards murder, and have killed far more people in a single year that bigotry have killed in millennium.

    You?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who gave PA authority over any area, I wonder?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Brits in conjunction with the UN ... same folks who gave Israel authority.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they didn't .. and are you sure it was the Pal's and not Jordan, Syria, Egypt ?
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong... Israel did, out of goodnes of their big generous Jewish hearts. Judea and Samaria were annexed by Jordan (not illegally, I must add) who arbitrarily gave it to the Palestinians.

    There.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question of Palestine and Israel has commanded the attention of the UN since the organization was founded. The UN General Assembly voted the original partition of the land in November 1947 and the UN deployed its first peacekeeping operation to monitor the ceasefire lines after the war of 1948. This site introduces readers to the key issues, with a special focus on UN involvement in the conflict.

    For many years, successive Israeli governments refused to consider a Palestinian state, while most Arabs denied the legitimacy of Israel. In the 1970s both sides began to recognize the need for compromise. The Palestinians proposed a separate state, claiming as their homeland the territories outside the 1948 ceasefire lines, territories occupied by Israel in the 1967 war. This idea found widespread support in the international community, and Israel was called on to withdraw from this land, as affirmed in UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338.
    Israel's 1967 occupation of other territories complicated the matter. Israel seized Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and Syria's Golan Heights and set up settlements in both. Israel also invaded Lebanon in 1978 and 1982 and maintained a long-term occupation in the southern part of the country. These wars and occupations were related to the Palestine question and deepened the political crisis surrounding it. Even after Israel eventually withdrew from Egypt and Lebanon, the Palestine (and Golan) occupations continued. Israel's settlement-building, and its construction of a massive border-wall that annexed large swaths of Palestinian territory, has made resolution of the conflict far more difficult.

    Since resolutions 242 and 338, the Security Council has taken no significant steps to end the Israel-Palestine conflict. United States influence has generally kept the issue off the Council's agenda. When Council members have introduced resolutions, responding to periodic crises, the US has repeatedly used symbolic weight. Both bodies would have been more effective if governments had been willing to confront US displeasure and US pressure. Recent US policy has only made matters worse.

    https://www.globalpolicy.org/securi...l-palestine-and-the-occupied-territories.html
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really... wonder, what motivates the United States? :confusion:
     
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    No the Palestinian Arabs rejected the 1947 UN plan. The war started shortly thereafter when they attacked the Israelis. They didn't agree to the agreement and rejected it therefore they can't go back and say that Israel violated it because they never signed on in the first place.
     
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    it's a religious war, sadly those are never reasonable...

    the ironic thing is, Muslim is a baby religion of Judaism, a part 2, Muslims and Christians should love their parent religion, it's the God they both believe in
     
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    Yes I know.
    This is why the fake 'palestinian refugees' steal the money that should have gone to real refugees.
     
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    Arab's desire to occupy land is stronger
     
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    No one claimed it did.
     
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    Many have .. regardless - we are not in agreement as my claim has been simply that Israel has been violating the agreement by which they were "allowed" to exist.
     
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    The fact that there was a war between the Pals and Israel has zero to do with whether or not Israel has the right to occupy land that is not part of what Israel agreed to.
     
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    Certainly not Peace ... that's for sure.
     
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    Are Palestinians American allies? No. Is Israel American ally? Yes.

    Why should not America support it's ally?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your argument is that we should support those who we are allied with - regardless of what they do.

    So ... if death squads dragging children over barbed wire until the flesh falls from their bones while their parents are forced to watch -Should we support this because the people doing this are our allies ?
     
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    Indeed - this is what allies do for each other. End of argument, my friend.
     
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    You are right . there is nothing more to debate when one claims that dragging children over barbed wire until the flesh falls from their bones while their parents watch is justified on the basis - they are our allies so we need to support everything that they do.

    While you are welcome to your opinion .... I do not share it :)
     
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    No my friend, I said nothing of a kind. Let me restate - Allies support each other, is what they do. US is allied with Israel, and thus supports it.

    There.
     
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    My point, obviously - is that just because a nation is our ally, does not mean we support everything they do. The example I gave, although the bad actor was not Israel in that particular case, was not a hypothetical .. unfortunately.

    Of course we support Israel (for better or for worse). In many ways this has exacerbated the blood feud.

    We never should have allowed Israel to have nukes. This was a colossal fk up. It is a whole lot more difficult to tell Iran "you can't have nukes" when Israel is allowed to have them.

    This Israel/Pal blood feud has been partly responsible for this middle east mess over the last 2 decades - starting with 911. It is a continued thorn - the flagbearer/ rallying cry- for the rise of Islamist extremists. 911 can be traced back to this mess.
     
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    The Jewish religion supports genocide if that takes to thieve the land of Canaan. And look at them Jews go, ethnic cleansing and murdering away to expand their Jew homeland, all according to their holy book.
     
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    We’re in a principal disagreement right there. Was it not for the nuke determent, Israel ‘be overrun many times over by now, being only what? 9 miles wide or something like that? It is fundamentally un-defendable, and this is why nukes and the resolve to use them for defense is paramount for Israel’s existence.

    Again, was it not for nukes and American unwavering support, Israel by now be a barren hills, like much of the Middle East.
     

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