Unburdened by everything

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Do we want a government that is unburdened by everything?

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do we want a government that is unburdened by everything?

    Makes zero promises about the future, to remain unburdened.

    It is pro war and anti war, we can have both.
     
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    Why do you think Trump is cozying up to dictators like Putin. He is learning.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Something I couldn't understand was when I put up an opinion poll,
    back in a different forum, of 34 responses the only two that agreed
    claimed that Left Wing means pro abortion.

    I'd always thought of Left / Right as about economic distribution,
    but now as I'm learning more about religion, I see that the Left
    are mainly atheists and don't have a sense of moral right and
    wrong the way the Left many years ago did.

    Now the Left are following Sartre and are unburdened by
    right and wrong.
     
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    It sounds like you are talking about the rank and file. But its the super rich that rule, and they are certainly unburdened about the needs of us, the rank and file.

    Jeff Bezos, the Waltons, arms industry captains, even Elon Musk....they didn't get there and stay there being concerned about truth, fairness, or morals or our futures, that's for sure. Rarely did they make a move that did not involve screwing others over for their personal gain and glory.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the super rich have mostly been supporting the Democratic Party,
    who aren't burdened by things like right and wrong.

    However, that can be a problem because they started and are fueling
    the war in Ukraine, however much the media insists it's being done by
    someone else. And if somebody starts destroying pipelines that war
    may have to end because something important will be at stake, and
    that's the money invested in the complex of pipelines.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I listened to a theologian who said that if God decides the US
    needs another 4 years of bad rulers to learn the lesson, then
    that's what we will get.
     
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    A significant percentage of people who claim to be Atheists.......

    are actually Theistic Satanists like Evangelist John Ramirez used to be......

    he claims that he could drink blood.... do rituals...... astral project... and cause havoc even in churches.........

    Satan met face to face with Evangelist John Ramirez before 1999......... and when Satan tells a leading Atheist to lie... and say that they are an Atheist.......

    even though they are actually a Theistic Satanist........... that person can be highly convincing even though they are actually teaching BITTERNESS and unforgiveness .... even of God... to all who listen to them..........

    I would suggest listening to how former Atheist Mr. Ian McCormack was taught about FORGIVENESS of all others who had sinned against him.......

    this was NOT easy for him..................

    this forgiveness thing is not going to be easy for any of us.......





    and if you have never heard Evangelist John Ramirez... I personally do believe what he reports experiencing from his childhood until 1999......






    Actually the question by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus to the Scribes and Pharisees......

    "is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil...... to save life or to kill??".... Implies that the situation faced by the Maccabees two centuries previously.......

    is relevant for our time...... because one set of circumstances can lead to simply praying for government officials..... but it seems as if the Holy Spirit led the Maccabees to revolt against the Greco - Syrian armies... and fight back...... even on the Sabbath..... yes..... the Maccabees killed Greco - Syrian soldiers....... even on the Sabbath...... so....... we need to be led by the Holy Spirit into questions that are kind of confusing.......

    Background information is here.....

    https://www.drbo.org/chapter/45002.htm
     
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    Satan is just a myth. Not to mention, astral projection sounds fun!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Former Covering Cherub Helel ... [Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan].... is at minimum billions of years old.... possibly trillions of years old........

    and the Book of Job gives hints at the types of Pessimistic and Negative and Dark psychological research he has gotten into on people like Job..... and all of the rest of us.......

    Satan wants to be thought of as a myth because that fits with his psychological research on the children of Adam and Eve....... which is all eight billion of us.....

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html


    Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan cannot comprehend being somehow restored..... so he wants all of us to believe that there is no hope for any of us either........
     
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    Dude... I've been dead. I've seen the other side. Your religion is false. None of your main characters were present, and I was told, point blank that they're nothing but human invented myths.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you really want to understand what you were told.... you need the humility to listen to former Atheist and near death experiencer.....Bryan Melvin

    you were met by lying spirits..............

    that is my guess........ based on my research so far........




    Back in 1990 i found out that my teachers since 1972 had been seriously in error......

    and admitting that I had been deceived in many ways was NOT easy for me......




    admitting the truth about what you saw will not be easy for you either.....

    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has the authority.... and the power to talk an Atheist....... or a thief on the cross on the cross or tree near him...... into being prepared to go into paradise................ but Ian McCormack had difficulty understanding why he needed to FORGIVE.... those who had sinned against him........





    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah 29&version=KJV


    13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

    14 And I will be found of you, saith the Lord: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the Lord; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

    15 Because ye have said, The Lord hath raised us up prophets in Babylon;

    16 Know that thus saith the Lord of the king that sitteth upon the throne of David, and of all the people that dwelleth in this city, and of your brethren that are not gone forth with you into captivity;

    17 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Behold, I will send upon them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.

    18 And I will persecute them with the sword, with the famine, and with the pestilence, and will deliver them to be removed to all the kingdoms of the earth, to be a curse, and an astonishment, and an hissing, and a reproach, among all the nations whither I have driven them:

    19 Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the Lord, which I sent unto them by my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them; but ye would not hear, saith the Lord.

    20 Hear ye therefore the word of the Lord, all ye of the captivity, whom I have sent from Jerusalem to Babylon:
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just found out that apparently near death experiencer Bryan Melvin has a blog......

    http://heavenhellpolitics.blogspot.com

    on that particular topic of The Trinity... Jesus said plainly that he... The Son of Man... was NOT doing the Miracles but The Father was.......

    He also stated that His disciples.... His students... His church... were better off with The Holy Spirit than if He had lived on and on and on and on..........

    BUT He said that all judgment is committed to the Son of Man..........

    partly I assume... due to His having experienced being fully human....... with all the tests and temptations that He went through.........

    Former Atheist Howard Storm is talked out of hell... and up into heaven.. and then back into life on earth... by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as the JUDGE for Howard Storm...................

    I am amazed how a near death experiencer can learn in minutes...... what it took me fifty years of researching to learn!!!!!!
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would God say about the past four years, starting a war in Ukraine and feeding weapons into
    the Middle East, big 2,000 high explosive pound bombs that destroy reinforced concrete?

    Here is just one of many scripture passages assessing a king, I did take it
    completely at random:

    2 Kings 12 1 In the seventh year of Jehu, Jehoash became king, and he reigned for forty years in Jerusalem;
    and his mother’s name was Zibiah of Beersheba. 2 Jehoash did what was right in the sight of the Lord all his
    days that Jehoiada the priest instructed him. 3 Only the high places did not end; the people still sacrificed and
    burned incense on the high places.


    Hardly any kings had the power to take down the high places, this is commented on repeatedly.
    Jehoash had to compromise, but as long as the high priest advised him, he did as well as could
    be expected.

    Trump allowed some weapons to be shipped to Ukraine, which they did use against Donetsk, but
    he limited the amount and delayed the shipment. He was against abortion but accepted that it
    was beyond his power to ban it. The world runs on compromise.
     
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    I do not understand this question well enough to answer the poll just yet.

    What does "unburdened by everything" fully mean?

    I personally believe that there are some situations where war is necessary.... such as WWII... and there are other situations where war can be avoided. Is that what this basically means?

    Does your poll fit with this highly debatable question that was posed by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus?


    Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?


    I decided to go with "Other response."

     
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