Under Biden we have had the worst foreign policy in history.

Joe knows · Sep 22, 2023

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That link, FYI, does not refute my argument. Sure, Biden could have tried to repopulate Afghanistan with American troops, and throw out the peace deal, though I don't know that Congress-- who is supposed to be the branch which makes decisions regarding war & peace; and is certainly the branch that would have needed to fund a reintroduction of significant numbers of troops-- could not have challenged such a turnaround. That is not a counter argument to my point that Trump had botched it, up to that point, and left too few troops, to give Biden any leverage, unless he wanted to send back ten thousand or more troops.

As Biden had been in favor of getting out of Afghanistan for a decade, from back when he was V.P., obviously he was not going to get that war machine fired up, all over again. From your linked source:

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“If he thought the deal was bad, he could have renegotiated. He had plenty of opportunity to do that if he so desired,” Miller, a top Pentagon counterterrorism official at the time the Doha deal was signed, said in an interview.

Renegotiating, though, would have been difficult. Biden would have had little leverage. He, like Trump, wanted U.S. troops out of Afghanistan. Pulling out of the agreement might have forced him to send thousands more back in.
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Now here's another link for you, from which I will provide you, what is really the minimum expected amount, but which you had failed to do: provide a snip (or a paraphrasing overview).*

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

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The fact is, President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, were both eager to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end what Biden referred to in his Aug. 16 speech as “America’s longest war.”

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

And the Trump administration kept to the pact, reducing U.S. troop levels from about 13,000 to 2,500, even though the Taliban continued to attack Afghan government forces and welcomed al-Qaeda terrorists into the Taliban leadership.
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*If you wish to continue the conversation, please hold up your end of it. Typically, when someone provides nothing at all but a link, as you just had, I ignore it. It is not up to me, to read through any article you throw at me, without even knowing what about the article, you think is relevant. Include a quote (snip) next time or, at the very least, summarize what claim you believe the article either supports or refutes.
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Lmao… you said it was irreversible and now you say he could have… which is it

Alwayssa · Sep 22, 2023

Joe knows said: ↑

Wrong again

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be

I see you fell for the Biden trash policy narrative though
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So you are quoting an op-ed, an opinion? LOL

there was no escape clause in the agreement. Trump said there was, but then again, Trump also claimed in his book, The Art of the Deal, that he had detailed plans about how to deal with Bin Ladin. However, if you read the book, he barely spent half a page and named no names.

BTW, here is the agreement. It was not in part one, not in part two, and not in part three.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02.29.20-US-Afghanistan-Joint-Declaration.pdf

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_for_Bringing_Peace_to_Afghanistan

Joe knows · Sep 22, 2023

Alwayssa said: ↑

So you are quoting an op-ed, an opinion? LOL

there was no escape clause in the agreement. Trump said there was, but then again, Trump also claimed in his book, The Art of the Deal, that he had detailed plans about how to deal with Bin Ladin. However, if you read the book, he barely spent half a page and named no names.

BTW, here is the agreement. It was not in part one, not in part two, and not in part three.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02.29.20-US-Afghanistan-Joint-Declaration.pdf

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_for_Bringing_Peace_to_Afghanistan
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You yourself said there was no agreement. Now you’re backtracking? Make up your mind

Alwayssa · Sep 22, 2023

Joe knows said: ↑

You yourself said there was no agreement. Now you’re backtracking? Make up your mind
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I never said that. Stop deflecting. I said there was no escape clause in the agreement, which you then offered an op ed that opinioned he did have an escape clause. If you read the actual document, you will find no escape clause. None whatsoever.

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