Understanding the J6th committee.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    The illegit and illegal committee does not deserve his testimony.... the have altered evidence and manipulated videos and need to clean up their own house..
     
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    There is nothing illegal about the committee, and quoting portions of a video is not "altering" or "manipulating" it. It's quoting.
     
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    So you admit he's lying.
     
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    No.... it is an illegit and illegal committee... and they have altered evidence and manipulated some of the videos....how many have they altered they did not get caught at.. let's see ALL their witness testimonies and documentation.. let's find the "truth" behind January 6... let's look into the FBI's involvement and Pelosi's neglect to oversee proper security for such a large crowd after forewarning and Trump authorizing the guard...
     
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    Not at all... Trump is telling the truth.
     
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    this is why I enjoy this forum..

    it confirms my belief that trump has many people under a spell//

    during his 4 years in office trump told more lies than every other president in history..

    and somehow people still support the guy

    these trumpers want to blame the security forces and Nancy Pelosi for January 6th riots

    this is like a group robbing a bank then claims they are innocent because there were not enough security guards

    or a driver traveling 150 miles an hour and says it is not against the law because the cops were eating donuts

    tomorrow will bring more evidence that trump condoned the riots of January 6th ..

    before summer is over trump will be in so deep he will not be qualified to run for president..

    early money is on Deathsantis....and rightly so because he is only a governor and has no record in national politics

    Deathsantis has total control of florida..but not because he is smart..it is because florida voters are stupid

    but Cruz , Pence. Abbott, Noem. Haley, Pompeo, and about 10 other are all dreaming of flying around in AIR FORCE ONE

    with trump gone, it will be fun to read who the Qanon trumpers get behind..my guess is deathsantis all the way
     
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    Swear under oath.
     
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    When the committee doctored evidence to conceal exculpatory information, what they are became undeniable. As for Double Agent Epps:

    Regime Propaganda, Ray Epps, and the New York Times. “Feuer’s embarrassing piece in the Times at first seemed inexplicable. Why would the Times seek to exonerate, or at least to drum up sympathy for, someone who was caught on video urging the crowd to break into the Capitol? The whole thing seemed like a higher-order hermeneutical conundrum. Until, that is, one recognizes that Epps might just be a sort of double agent, an agent provocateur, laboring not on behalf of Trump’s supporters but his enemies. Then it all begins to make sense.”

    Reichstag fire.

    "Yes, even in that video taken on January 5, 2021, when Epps tells the crowd that the next day they must go “into the Capitol, into the Capitol,” members of the crowd start chanting “Fed, Fed, Fed.” They knew."

    The NYT's is the “public relations arm of the national security establishment.”
     
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    revolver did a real good article on Ray Epps... the poor guy has been through so much.. boo hoo.
    https://www.revolver.news/2022/07/t...new-york-times-desperate-ray-epps-puff-piece/
     
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    Here another this committee will never touch

    June 10, 2022
    Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher emailed top Schumer aide Kelly Fado, now the Senate's deputy sergeant of arms, at about 9:40 p.m. on Jan. 5, 2021 saying he wanted to "provide you visibility" to new intelligence that an FBI threat analysis center had received from a website owner, according to documents obtained by Just the News.
    Schumer team received FBI intel about possible violence, frontline cops didn't
    https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-06/GallagherFado010521EmailWAttachments.pdf
    https://justthenews.com/government/...humer-team-got-fbi-intel-about-jan-6-violence

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    Regardless of what Trump did or didn't do, security at the capitol was at the responsibility of the House, and they were made aware as early as January 2nd for contingency plans, and they chose to take none of those various plans due to 'optics'. So yes, part of the responsibility falls on them as well for the riots.
     
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    What a story. The issue is the “old guard Republican’s” are the main source of the chaos in the country. By “old guard” I mean the donor class that supports and created the Party’s infrastructure. Yeah, the one’s that fund the media-social media that feeds your ridiculous narrative and takes advantage of your predisposition. The real deplorable stock in this country.

    Fortunately the J6 committee will at least make Trump and his cohorts toxic and the DOJ will send some of those useful idiots to jail. Just enough will get done to avoid the worse case scenario—losing the Republic.

    Unfortunately, it won’t be enough.
     
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    Another guy with no idea what's going on. Sorry social media is owned by the woke left and the environmental activists.
     
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    So a bank robber can get a lighter sentence beciase he/she blames the guard for being asleep during the robbery??

    psst. Despite security , robbery and insurrection are both illegal and the culprits should be punished accordingly
     
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    And the culprits are being punished, but if the guard were asleep that guard would be fired. The Speaker made an example out of the former head of capitol police, why? To deflect? There isn't going to be a total accounting for 1/6 until we find out why security lacked on that day. But there's very little appetite to find out.
     
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    All it takes to get some testimony is a subpoena and threat of jail if you don't comply and they get to choose who they target so that is not great accomplishment.

    The question is how reliable is that testimony, did it stand up to inquiery was it tested by cross-examination? And was anything of material importance learned from it. In all cases I would say no.
     
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    Well.if the bank were robbed and the board of directors were told by the security guard that the Chief of Police, the State Police and the FBI had all called him and said they thought there might be a robbery attempt and offered some extension security but the bank manager, six times, turned down that extra security what do you think would happen to the bank manager?
     
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    Yes, witnesses are chosen with much more diligence than a random draw. Their intimacy with the facts in dispute and their credibility are carefully assessed.

    House committee hearings are not trials where cross-examinations occur Sworn testimony can be challenged by presenting rebuttals, refutations, character smears, and conflicting accounts in the media. E.g., if a diehard Trumper were verklempt over all the corroborative accounts, under oath, by Republicans, of the Loser's dereliction of duty for three hours, he can proofer a vidid description of the Loser's hitherto unknown heroic, relentless efforts to save the police, his Vice President, and other besieged legislators from his goons.

    If any of the perfidy exposed in the hearings results in prosecution, it will occur in a venue where cross-examinations are appropriate.
     
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    Reportedly? You still trust anything leaked from that committee?
     
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    Diligence and cherry picked to present the predetermined narrative......as I said not some great accomplishment.


    Can you try to clean up that verbal mess? The fact remains this is an official government proceeding attempting to charge persons with crimes. It is supposed to be a HEARING where both sides are HEARD and the evidence presented is examined and tested and challenged and proven or disproven. Instead we have a political inquisition.

    Why not now to spare us a prosecution based on the perfidy of this propaganda display? It's the job of the DOJ to investigate this and with all there skills and resources you are saying these partisan politicians are better investigators and without them the DOJ could not do it's job?
     
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    Indeed. All the Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders did present coherent, corroborative testimony with a minimum of diversions.

    No, the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is not authorized to charge anyone with a crime.

    Please cite where the Committee is charged with what you claim. In fact, it is a select committee of the U.S. House of Representatives appointed to investigate the attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. It is fulfilling its assigned mission admirably.

    If you are upset by so many Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders - as well as police and self-confessed Trump goons - giving sworn testimony, it all accrues to a better understanding of the desecration of the Capitol and other such schemes - such as fake electors - to thwart democracy.

    If Matt Gaetz refuses to testify under oath that it was not Trump goons, but antifa disguised as Trump goons, or if other Trump lickspittles refuse to relate their alternative accounts under oath, that is their right.
     
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    How do you imagine Trump spent three hours while his goons attacked the Capitol?
     

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