John McCain spoke today before the Senate citing the Yemen "underwear bomber" as an example of atrocious "Government Leaks". The bomber HIMSELF was rumoured to be a CIA agent. McCain has apparently given credibility to these theories. We now upgrade the claim that the Underwear Bomber event was staged, because the bomber himself has been significantly confirmed to be a government agent. The apparent effect of the faked attack, was to have another agent sit in Yemen and gain acceptance into the radical network for his sponsorship of the "fake" attack, thereby solicit connections with militants. Do not worry... The agent has reportedly been remove already because the information was already leaked. I am proud to bering you the information after the fact without jeopardizing ANYBODY'S lives (except perhaps my own). Such a wonderful world of free information. When we do not hear free information, that will be the signal to worry! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-7727747.html A bomber from the al-Qa'ida affiliate in Yemen sent to blow up a US-bound airliner last month was actually a double agent who infiltrated the group and volunteered for the suicide mission, US media reported yesterday. Working closely with the CIA, Saudi Arabia's intelligence agency placed the operative inside al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, with the goal of convincing his handlers to give him a new type of non-metallic bomb for the mission, the Los Angeles Times reported. Western intelligence agencies have identified AQAP as among the most dangerous and determined al-Qa'ida affiliates in the world, dedicated in part to attacks on the West. The explosive device was intended to be smuggled aboard an aircraft undetected and then detonated. The double agent arranged instead to deliver the device to US and other intelligence authorities waiting outside Yemen, the LA Times reported. The agent arrived safely in an unidentified country and is being debriefed. Experts at the FBI's bomb laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, are now analyzing the device to determine if it really could have evaded airport security, the newspaper said. If such a device could be brought on board an aircraft, it could in theory be detonated without the knowledge of aircraft passengers and crew. The main charge was a high-grade military explosive that "undoubtedly would have brought down an aircraft," the New York Times reported, citing a senior American official. It appeared to be an upgraded version of the so-called "underwear bomb" that failed to down a passenger jet over Detroit on Christmas Day 2009, the LA Times said. "Like that bomb, this device bears the forensic signature of feared al-Qa'ida bomb maker Ibrahim Hassan Asiri," who is believed to be hiding in Yemen, the LA Times website reported. The operation relied not on the high-tech and satellite surveillance for which the CIA has been known in recent years, but old-fashioned human intelligence work. It did, however, produce intelligence that helped the CIA locate top al-Qa'ida operative Fahd al-Qasaa, who was killed on Sunday when a CIA drone targeted him with a missile as he stepped out of his car in Yemen, the newspapers reported. Qasaa was thought by intelligence analysts to have played a role in the bombing of guided missile destroyer USS Cole in a Yemeni port in 2000. Reuters
Originally Posted by Hummingbird Now let me get this straight ..... the Underwear Bomber was actually an undercover CIA agent who blew up his genitals in a 'staged' event? Is that right? Please correct me where I'm wrong..... Nobody's genitals were harmed... The operation went like this. An undercover "mentor" remained in Yemen and bragged to his terrorist friends that his progeny (an undercover young agent) has embarked after careful training on a martyrdom mission. The terrorists balked at first, and said "Yeah sure. Everybody's child has done so." - How could they believe him? However just as he described, news of an event occurred. The young agent was "captured", actually, removed into safe American hands. A nice place for a young agent to be. He receives an immediate ribbon and a special ceremony. The older agent stays behind and laments, "Oh Allah. I have failed you."... His terrorist friends say, "No, no. We will get them NEXT time.". They start planning. Now the veteran agent has infiltrated their network and gathers valuable intelligence. Of course... That was the plan, but somebody in the Whitehouse leaked the information. I have no idea why they would do so, but this is what Senator Saxby Chambliss (Republican, Georgia), Senator John Cornyn (Republican, Texas) and Senator and Vietnam War Hero John McCain (Republican, Arizona) are complaining about today according to Russian cables.
New illegal evidence has come to light that Barack Obama himself green lighted and championed the event after manipulation to do so in a security meeting. All of this falls through from whitehouse's own moles who leaked the information.
so why is McCain leaking this? is this a plot to get the terrorist wondering who to trust, to get them to turn on each other? who knows... I only know that we are not gonna get the full story, as if we get it, the terrorist get it .
That is very interesting. Here we have a glimpse into the world of clandestine operations. For even more fun, try looking up Operation Northwoods
McCain babbled about it in a Government hearing, because he was co-sponsoring a bill that aimed to tighten the rope around the neck of leakers. He cited this particular leak as an example of one that jeopardized the lives of American men and women in plain-clothes uniform. The information had already been leaked, and most elements had already acted on the information... However media elements (of which I am part) sometimes hear leaks as uncoraborated (unverified) rumours. As such, when McCain opened his flabby mouth, he gave legitimacy to the speculation which was previously filed away as "unknown". Now that the truth is known, the world is better.
Marshal, "New illegal evidence has come to light that Barack Obama himself green lighted and championed the event after manipulation to do so in a security meeting. All of this falls through from whitehouse's own moles who leaked the information." Where are you getting this info?
Imagine that, the CIA staging a terror attack. Well, gotta keep us scared, begging for government protection. THAT is terrorism. "Look everybody, we caught another terrorist. Aren't you glad we view your e-mails and molest you at the airport? Just stay afraid, and give us more power to protect you from people like this."
The most compelling evidence came from suspicious US Consolate officials who processed the UWB application for entry to the United States and abnormal process controls. They leaked the information which I recieve on connection to news for news services.
I'm still wondering why the subject of terrorism would be under the military forum because liberals and the Clinton administration classified Al Qaeda as not being a national security issue but a law enforcement issue. That's was why Janet Reno put up the "wall" that allowed Al Qaeda to carry out their attacks on 9-11-01. I know the left don't like being reminded of this after 9/11 since it's kinda makes the left sound hypocritical when they blame G.W. Bush for Clinton's failed terrorism policies. But I have to concur with Mushroom. this thread does belong in the conspiracy thread.
And you really have to ask? You bring back a year dead thread, and ask why it belongs in conspiracy theory, then try to badger me about it? Here is a clue for one, not all of us log on every day. Some of us (like me) may go a week or more with little to no internet access. So did that make you feel better? And this perfect example of what I mean when I say you should "vette your reference". Let's see what other "journalistic gems" can be found in "The Independent", shall we? Well, here is one about the ugliest celebrities. And here is another, on how the 2 Americans shot each other outside a strip club in Venezuela. TO bad Venezuela already arrested somebody else for this incident. I guess they are to busy to bother updating a story as facts come in. And going through the 5 pages I was allowed to see, I saw nothing else, just piles of crap. And you really wonder why I think this belongs in CT? I guess Weekly World News is a legitimate news source as well.
You do realize that there is a gigantic difference between an "informer" and an "agent", don't you? This guy is believed to have been an informer, that is somebody who passes along information. That is an incredible difference from an agent, who is an actual employee and representative of the organization. How about passing along information, instead of incorrect propaganda, will ya? With what you are saying, you might as well claim that the CI that tips LAPD offers off is actually a cop. No, not quite. Not even close.
If you don't believe me, Google this: 'underwear bomber double agent' - 'double agent underwear bomber' - 'British al Qaeda double agent'. Or do I need to hand feed you the sources?
I can also Google "Flat Earth", "moon is made of green cheese" and "Jesus loves me this I know", and get back responses as well. Sorry, if you can't provide a verifiable and reputable reference, don't expect me to do it for you. http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=George+Washington+was+gay
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/09/w...ouble-agent-officials-say.html?pagewanted=all http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-al-Qaeda-mastermind-Yemen-drone-attack.html http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/world/meast/yemen-qaeda-plot http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/article3408572.ece http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57430472/would-be-underwear-bomber-a-double-agent/ http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/09/world/la-fg-bomb-plot-20120509 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18000351 http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2018171295_underwearbomb09.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304203604577396572887391582.html http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1020be3a-9987-11e1-9a57-00144feabdc0.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...been-working-undercover-for-up-to-a-year.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/09/underwear-bomber-working-for-cia http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/11/underwear-bomb-plot-mi6-cia-leaks There. I did YOUR homework for YOU. Feel better now? How's that denialism now? Or are those rosy colored glasses still too red for ya?
Once again, reading comprehension. That was only in the 3 references that I picked to look at. Seems it is as I said, not the way you are trying to make it out to be. And these are your own sources my friend. You keep trying to make it sound like this guy "went rogue" and was trying to blow up the plane in spite of working for Al-'Āmah, not that he was an insider who gave them the information needed to foil the plot.
He was working for us. Almost by definition, everybody placed in an undercover capacity in another organization is a "double agent". Donnie Brasco was a "double agent", since he was working for the Mafia, as an agent of the FBI. I still fail to see your point, he was not some rogue agent like you keep trying to say he was.
