Universal health-care is within reach (everywhere except the US)

The real bottleneck are medical residencies. There are more medical school graduates than residencies available. That needs to be solved first before worrying about increasing the number of medical school graduates.

 

Is this supposed to be the same universal health care that would.not allow the parents of two kids to seek aid outside their country?

 

And yet Canadians are coming to the US for many treatments since the waiting list in Canada are long.

 

very, very, very few canadians leave for the country for treatment, it's a huge myth...those stats that are referred to also include canadians who are on vacation when they become ill or injured... and those who work or go to school in the US, over a million...

 

You need to explain if you want a response. What two kids? What country?

 

You mean universal health expense. Actual care may be determined by bureaucrats like they did for baby Alfi or by dictated spending leaving hospitals without life saving equipment like Natasha Richardson or by long long waiting lists.

 

The main reason for health differences between the US and Europe are not based upon the healthcare given, but based up diet. The average person in the US eats way more food then a European and more processed food on top of that. There are many articles on the web discussing the eating habits of both and obesity is a huge cause of many other health issues.

 

Edited to add: OPIATES !
Even prescribed Opiates are killing many as well as returning Military Veterans.

This.

 

Nope, not so.

National Health Care is a political decision that is undertaken because nobody in Europe wants a health-care system as exists in the US.

The Brits were the first. Their healthcare system started in the early 1950s. Now, to become a member of the EU it is one criteria for national adoption. (Because, yes, it is costly. But half the per-capita cost of US healthcare!)

Every European with whom I discuss Healthcare tells me how amazed they are that the US does not have a National Healthcare System.

Ditto Post-secondary Education ...

 

And in spite of what you do wrongly say,
I am more likely to survive a cardiac event in the U.S.

Why ?

Paramedic Ambulance more likely to arrive in time.
E.R. way better prepared and stocked.
Medical personnel is far better trained.

Better faster quality of medication delivery systems.

And the best point ?

I actually worked in Healthcare.

You, on the other hand, not so much.
Not here in the U.S. not anywhere,
A mere economist.

Not a valid qualification by any means.

 

Not arguing that national healthcare isn't a political decision. I'm arguing why there is a difference in overall health of the people between the two. Your position was that the reason for the better health of the people was the healthcare system, I'm pointing out that it's not the healthcare system, but the people and their habits.

 

Yes then we can all experience UK death panels for our kids and long waiting times for substandard treatments.

 

The UK with Charlie Card and Alfie Evans

 

The reason for the longer life span in Europe is, yes, likely dependent on numerous factors.

The people are more laid-back here than in the US, and nobody gives back vacation-time to their employer because they don't know what to do with it ...

See here: Americans give up enormous amounts of vacation time
- excerpt :

Now tell me there is no link between illness and being overworked ...

 

In this statement about health and longevity we are in agreement.

 

work doesn't hurt your health(unless there's stress) it improves it...not working is a killer...
europen live long because they eat better
have better healthcare
are more active

 

americans have twice the number of cardiac events as europeans...the point of good health and healthcare is to not get ill and avoid the cardic events in the first place...

 

And you are a Physician ?
Obviously not.
Your advice is pudding.

 

are you a physician???? not...you're opinion is worth as much as the contents of a bedpan...

among my many medical buddies is an elite cardiologist a graduate of John Hopkins...yeah he's forgotten more about cardiology and healthcare in the last five minutes than you will accumulate in your lifetime...

 

I have over 10 years working in Healthcare.
Not counting clinical rotations.
I doubt you were my preceptor during those years.

Your friendship grants you no special status to falsely berate me.

 

Do you think that there are other factors at play then just healthcare when it comes to life expectancy? We have a massive obesity problem and eat garbage regularly so no wonder we don't live as long as the healthy Japanese.

 

Oh damn ... ! ;^)

 

Obesity is not a "health-problem"?

Maybe you just go to the gym or jogging around the neighborhood, but most people here in Europe go see a doctor.

Why? Because it costs them peanuts to do so!

Look, health-care is not an "ordinary problem". If one cannot see quickly a low-cost physician, one simply worsens the health-problem. The quicker it is attended to, the sooner it is repaired and at a much lower cost than surgery.

And with Nationalized HealthCare companies need not be obliged to assume its costs, which they recuperate by imputing them to the price of goods/services.

Which means that we, the sheeple, pay for it anyway whether we get health-care or not!

It is far, far better for everybody that Health-care is "un-privatized" and made a National Service Offering - where exorbitant prices can be "controlled". And ordinary GPS do not make more than $200K* a year because they think they deserve it - after all, their education has cost an arm-and-a-leg. (Pun intended!)

In the US, health-care is just one more market-economy aberrance - like post-secondary education - that needs to be corrected** ...

*See here, Bureau of Labor Statistics.
**Which both Bernie and Hillary were proposing, btw. For Hillary, it was the second-time Nationalized Healthcare was shot down. (First time came during her husband's presidency.) Just how stoopid can a country get?

 

If only - Europeans are getting into "speed-eating" (whatever they can get delivered within 20 minutes) in front of a TV. And they actually THINK that living like Americans is "the thing to do"?

No, as a Yank (who's "been there") I am not the least bit amused by the increased rates of obesity here in France. I have been here for more than 40 years and when I arrived there was so little obesity one had to go looking for it. Nowadays it slaps one in the face when shopping in a supermarket.

But, the present health-statistics also say that the problem is uniformly world-wide in all countries that arrive at a GDP with which people can afford to eat more than is necessary for subsistence.

And the US is not the only country in that category ...

 

cultural lifestyles can change but it still holds true