US Army hype

Hype is the word for Americans that brag around about their technological superiority the world over.

Silence is that Russians always keep elaborating new technologies.

Old tanks like Abrahams, clumsy air defense systems like ‘Patriot’ which absolutely no much to even old Russian S-300 systems let alone upgraded ones plus, S-400, S-500, ‘Antei -2500’, Vitiaz ecc.

Yes. That’s true a US military industry keeps going making good rifles, guns and all this kind of ammunition ( also the Italian ones is no worse and sometimes even more reliable and precise) but they’re secondary in space.

Americans thump their chest talking about nanno, electro cannons, and other gadgets that in vogue but keep buying Russian engines RD-180 for their Atlas Vs and Sea starts and SBIRS. They say the Americans bought one engine and the whole pack of docs from Russians as far as in 2006. They paid money to make the same type of engines in America but till now cannot reproduce something really valuable in this industry.

And don’t forget about MKS that is working in space even today. And why not a US space station if Americans are so advanced?

Afghanistan is another song. Locals till now remember fierce fights with the Soviets. What did afghans say when the first US troops entered their country?

‘We won over Russians. Its no problems to press down the Americans!’ So it went.

Soviets run around the whole country day & night having 800 checkpoints all over the country doing whatever the wanted. Afghans having colossal aid behind their backs could do nothing to Russian until Gorbachev arrived on the scene. The Americans prefer to be shut up at their bases and it well knowing that in close combat they give way to many people and nations.

American Army says it has best trained soldiers in the world? Seems very strange to hear, but let’s presume for a moment this is true. They’re best trained but the Russians are inbred soldiers even if untrained, barefooted, drunk and face superior army as it was thousands times in their history.

So a US Army keeps bragging saying different rubbish about free people who are more inventive than people not free and other stories and fairy tales on the topic. But the fact remains true.
The soviets (aka Russians) were the first to launch a man into space putting Americans to the place they merit.


Russians keep silence. Why do they have to hype themselves? They know they are the only country the world over to tear up the whole USA in a few minutes. And they know that Americans know that they know it.

So why to talk aloud about it?

 

The US Army says nothing at all. That's what politicians are for. Now lay off the vodka comrade.

 

Afghanistan is not the right battlefield for comparassant.

 

If it were not for the existing Russian Nuclear Weapons...which are no where near as accurate and capable of American systems...Russia would be considered a 3rd world Military.

Russian conventional forces are a JOKE and at one time Russian low tech...LARGE NUMBERS...are now degraded to just 70% or less of what their numbers were in the Soviet Era.

Russian Main Battle Tanks of which the T-72 Russia has in the greatest numbers...cannot even penetrate a U.S. Main Battle Tanks...M-1 Abrams...armor with a DIRECT HIT.

The Russian Military Personal are also poorly trained, low paid draftees as all Russian Males must complete at a minimum 12 months of military service apposed to American ALL VOLUNTEER MILITARY PERSONAL which sign up for a minimum 4 to 6 year duty.

Now ask yourself this...which soldiers are going to be better at their jobs?

A Russian kid who may not even have graduated High School and has been forced to serve and has only 12 months to learn and practice their job?

Or the American soldier who has to qualify to join a specific branch of the service as the U.S. Military's High Tech. Weapons call for personal who are intelligent, dedicated and all of which have either a High School diploma or now days the service branches require at least 2 years and an associates degree or 4 years and a B.S. or B.A. Degree from a College or University just to GET IN to the U.S. Military...as well as spend 4 to 6 years perfecting their job?

Come ON! Get Real!

AboveAlpha

 

So your country also has a military industrial complex. Congratulations.

 

Allons to all my fellow soldiers!! I remember guarding the Fulda Gap and the Soviet Union never did dare to come across.

 

Who told you it even wanted to? Ah, yes, "analysts".

 

Just an ordinary american bla-bla-bla!

We're the best, stironger and all this crap around.

Lucky you are not to cross arms with Russian face to face...

 

I participated in a NATO drill with American soldiers, the most impressive was how wasteful they were with everything (sorry i can not give details), no wonder they cost so much .

 

Bla...Bla...Bla?

So...let me get this straight...I provide you with actual reasons for what I am saying and that is all you can say? LOL!

I have been performing a...JOB...for over 3 decades now and I have met many a Russian face to face.

If the Russian is a well trained member of their Special Forces well that is one thing.

But if the Russian is typical of the average Russian kid in their current military...well...that is a sad sight to see.

AboveAlpha

 

Yes...I certainly would not want to watch a Russian cry.

AboveAlpha

 

Thank your Babushka you are not in war with the US lol

 

A good training is a plus. Who says no? Yet the Russian way of training is a bit different. The get training during and inside a war. And it takes not much time to turn into austere warriors for them. At least it's been so all the last century.

US special forces for example always got a good trainig. We all have seen the results of such training over US Ambassy in Iran and in Mogadisho. Were those guys badly trained? Of course no!

In Mogadisho everything had to be done in 46-60 minutes. Why not if US assault troops were the best trained at this time the world over.

 

TRAINING DURING AND INSIDE A WAR???!!!??? LOL!

THAT...is what you consider a good Russian training technique???!!!???? LOL!

So...after the first few thousand Russian Kids get their Heads blown off...the next couple of hundred Russian Kids at the front lines will come to realize that it is better to keep their HEADS DOWN?

All branches of the United States Military are BATTLE HARDENED....as well are HIGHLY TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED EXPERT PROFESSIONAL SOLDIERS.

Although there is close to ZERO% CHANCE the United States and Russia will ever go to war against each other...if for some chance they did...Russian Forces would have their ASSES HANDED TO THEM.

For GODS SAKE...the Russian Military go it's ass kicked by a bunch of untrained VILLAGERS in Chechnya.

It got so bad that in order to save face the Russian Military was ordered by Putin to use Attack Aircraft, Main Battle Tanks, Medium Bombers and Heavy Artillery in a SLASH AND BURN CAMPAIGN of Civilian Population Centers in order to force the Chechen Rebel Leadership to surrender.

In the event that Russian and American Forces were to face off on a conventional battlefield...the mobility, the high technology and the skill and experience of American Military Forces would show immediately as the U.S. Military fights wars in a inter-service coordinated fashion.

Russian Ground and Air Forces would be greatly over matched and as far as the two Navies...well...the U.S. Navy is so massive and so powerful that there is not even a need to discuss here this massive disparity.

AboveAlpha

 

What a rotten (*)(*)(*)(*) you're saying here!
In the event that Russian and American Forces were to face off on a conventional battlefield...
Are really nuts?

You have only 1 option in this case.
To come and die!

As you keep doing elsewhere whre come across real soldiers!

 

You have made posts attempting to portray me as some U.S. Military Cheerleader.

You have done this because you not only do not agree with what I have posted but as well you can be seen as a person who will make any and all possible statements glorifying the strength of the Russian Military as well as stating that the Russian Military is superior to the U.S. Military without providing any logic, facts, history or evidence of any kind that would justify your statements.

Now all the statements I have made I have provided at the very least a line of logic or the history of conflicts where Russian and American weapons have been used by either sides or show how recent conflicts such as Chechnya were the Russian Military fared poorly.

If you believe the Russian Military is superior to that of the United States then by all means...PROVIDE SOME PROOF or at the very least provide us with a line of logic to support your claims.

I have done this and the evidence and history show that Russia would be defeated in a conventional battle, air battle or naval battle against U.S. Forces.

AboveAlpha

 

Till now i have never heard of a real proof here.

Just a sobering.

Besides I don't say Russian Army is superior.

I just say that Amercians in any conventional battle against Russians will stand no chance.

It's so easy to understand and it's so evident that only a brainwashed person can deny it.

BTW what are your logic, proofs and facts?

I see

TV Shows

 

My evidence is that the United States has 8725 M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams Tanks in service.

Russia has 100 T-54 and 55's...100 T-62's...100 T-64's...1200 T-72's...1400 T-90's...400 T-90's in service.

NONE OF THESE TANKS CAN PENETRATE A U.S. M1 ABRAMS TANKS ARMOR EVEN WITH A DIRECT HIT.

The new Russian T-95 is said to be almost equal to the M1A2 Abrams but ZERO are in service.

THAT IS PROOF!

AboveAlpha

 

Russia has ...what?
T-55

So what?

DIrect hit doesn't make results?
Tell it to afhgan guerriglia or arab foghters.

You don't know even what a first grade to a seconsary school knows!
If you can't make a direct hit,, just hit it from another point!

T-95 cnnot be said equal because Abrahams today is an old crap.

 

So what!!??

Russia does not have a Main Battle Tank that can destroy an American M1 Abrams.

The T-95 which could penetrate the M1 Abrams armor is not yet in service.

So as the two armies tanks close upon each other the M1 Abrams tank will destroy Russian Tanks at will. The Russian tanks cannot penetrate the Abrams armor so even if the Russian tanks were to actually hit an Abrams the Abrams will keep on driving and blowing up Russian Tanks.

You have NO ARGUMENT as these facts and figures are from the Russian Defense Ministry.

AboveAlpha

 

These Tanks were destroyed by Mines or large IED's.

NOT ONE SINGLE M1 ABRAMS TANK WAS DESTROYED IN IRAQ BY ANOTHER TANK.

AboveAlpha

 

First off - One doesn't have to have a main battle tank today to destroy Anrahams.
Russians know it well.

Secondly - Russians doesn't have a mbt because they understood that all previuose tank building concepts are finished.

This is why they scrap all the new designs. They 're not in a hurry. No wonder because they have a very long tank building experience behind their back. What do you have to glance back to -a shoddy 'Sherman'?

American designers are losing this competition as they cannot propose nothing else except for putting a new armour on which naturally make this tank heavier, clumsier. Moreover you need to install a new engine that eats more oil and so on.

You call it an advanced design?

Wake up!

 

Think about what you are trying to argue.

You have the U.S. Military that not only has a Tank that cannot be destroyed by any current in service Russian Tank but as well the U.S. Military has an integrated system using Attack Choppers such as the Apache Long Bow...Self Propelled Munitions...the Bradley....A-10 Warthogs...all sorts of Attack Aircraft such as the F-15E Strike Eagle...and Multiple Launched Rocket Systems.

Every single conflict where U.S. Weapons were used against Russian Made Weapons...the Russian made weapons were outclassed and destroyed.

AboveAlpha

 

Cheap, small and fast that's the way we go now, drones combined with F-35, in 2 decades the Drones will be fully automatic and will communicate with each other, we already have Naval, Land and Ofc Flying Drones, what good are AA Misslies if you cant catch or see a target ? how about swarms of tiny chopers ? mass production that's the future.

 

So? If a cumulative grenade can penetrate it, what makes you think tank can't? Tanks can fire cumulative shells and missiles, don't you know?

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