US of AIPAC moron bends over for Zionists.

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    I find this sickening; an American prostrating himself before a foreign power which is held in contempt by the majority of world States and is in breach of dozens of UN resolutions as well as international and humanitarian law. Zionists murdered 400 Palestinian children over christmas, 2008/9, fer chrissake, along with a thousand other people. Zionists practice ethnic cleansing, apartheid and implement fascist laws against the non-jewish 25% of the Israeli population. How this man, or anybody else for that matter, can openly support this criminal regime in such a demeaning fashion leaves me wondering if America will ever recover from its loss of face due to the groveling we have witnessed from such high-profile fools , both in the entertainment industry and in the diplomatic services. Obama recently vetoed his own policy at the United Nations ! After years of proclaiming support for Palestinian Statehood the US is about to oppose its own policy on the world stage. Geez, talk about crapping in your own hat.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    And yet the gullible simpletons of the American hard-right will be lapping this up and applauding the idiot.
    What is it with these people? On the face of it they (the conservatives), come across as intelligent, lucid individuals and yet when it comes to Israel they suddenly turn into deaf-mutes if any criticism of the regime is voiced.
    The only reason I can think of-aside from the obvious ignorant racist one-is that they are being lied to and manipulated by their pro-Israeli media. I wonder when the last time was that anything positive was reported about the Palestinians, or anything honest about their situation.

    No, all America wants to listen to is 'Israelis=good, any Muslim=bad.
    If you are only able to think in terms of black and white then that's all you'll be fed.
    Little wonder right-wing Americans are thought of as the village idiots of the world.
     
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    Media bias is an issue that ought not to be underestimated. Professional journalists reporting from the Middle East ought to be discomfited by the publication of More Bad News From Israel, an updated study by Greg Philo and Mike Berry of the Glasgow University Media Group (Pluto Press, 2011; first edition published as Bad News From Israel in 2004).

    The book examines media coverage of the conflict in Israel and Palestine, and the impact of this reporting on public opinion. In the largest study of its kind ever undertaken, the authors illustrate major biases in the way Palestinians and Israelis are represented in the media, including how casualties, and the motives and rationale of the different parties involved, are depicted. In follow-up interviews with viewers and listeners, the book also reveals the extraordinary differences in levels of public knowledge and understanding of the conflict. It is significant that gaps in public understanding often reflect the propaganda generated by Israel and its supporters in the West. Indeed, the book exposes the 'success of the Israelis in establishing key elements of their perspective and the effect of these being relayed uncritically in media accounts'.

    In a powerful new chapter, Philo and Berry present an in-depth analysis of BBC and ITV news coverage of the 2008-2009 Israeli attack on Gaza, Operation Cast Lead. On 27 December 2008, Israel launched a massive series of assaults on the densely-populated strip of land with F-16 fighter jets, Apache helicopters and unmanned drones. Attacks with tanks and ground troops followed. 22 days later, the total number of Palestinian dead was estimated by B'Tselem, the Israeli human rights group, as 1,389. The death toll included 318 children. Ten Israeli soldiers were also killed, four of them in 'friendly fire' incidents. During the attacks, Israeli forces repeatedly bombed schools, medical centres, hospitals, ambulances, UN buildings, power plants, sewage plants, roads, bridges and civilian homes.

    The researchers recorded, transcribed and analysed over 4000 lines of broadcast news text from both the BBC and ITV (it is not stated explicitly, but one assumes these 4000 lines were shared approximately equally between the two broadcasters).

    'The most striking feature of the news texts', write Philo and Berry, 'is the dominance of the Israeli perspective, in relation to the causes of the conflict.'

    Specifically, they note that the Israeli themes of 'ending the rockets' (fired from Gaza by Hamas into Israel), the 'need for [Israel's] security' and to 'stop the smuggling of weapons' (by Hamas into Gaza) received a total of 316.5 lines of text from the BBC. Other Israeli propaganda messages, such as the need to 'hit Hamas' and that 'Hamas and terrorists are to blame', received 62 lines on BBC News. The total for Israeli explanatory statements on the BBC was 421.25. This compared with a much lower total for Hamas/Palestinian explanations of just 126.25. In ITV News coverage, there were over 302 lines relating to Israeli explanatory statements but just 78 for Hamas/Palestinian.

    But even these 126.25 BBC and 78 ITV lines of 'explanations' of the Palestinian perspective lacked substance: 'the bulk of the Palestinian accounts do not explain their case beyond saying that they will resist.' What was almost non-existent were crucial facts about 'how the continuing existence of the blockade affects the rationale for Palestinian action and how they see their struggle against Israel and its continuing military occupation.'

    For the Palestinians, then, the military occupation of their lands and the crushing blockade of Gaza are utterly central to the 'conflict'. But on BBC News there were just 14.25 lines referring to the occupation and only 10.5 on the ending of the siege/blockade. ITV News had 12.25 lines on ending the siege/blockade and a single line about the occupation. The bias is glaring.

    Instead of adequately explaining the Palestinian viewpoint, BBC and ITV news heavily reflected Israeli propaganda:

    'The dominant explanation for the attack [Operation Cast Lead] was that it was to stop the firing of rockets by Hamas. The offer that Hamas was said to have made, to halt this in exchange for lifting the blockade (which Israel had rejected), was almost completely absent from the coverage.'

    In short, news coverage of the brutal assault was skewed by the Israeli perspective, perpetuating 'a one-sided view of the causes of the conflict by highlighting the issue of the rockets without reporting the Hamas offer', and by burying rational views on the purpose of the attack: namely the Israeli desire to inflict collective punishment on the Palestinian people.

    In classic academic understatement, Philo and Berry conclude:

    "It is difficult in the face of this to see how the BBC can sustain a claim to be offering balanced reporting."

    This is consistent with Chomsky and Herman's seminal "propaganda model" that is equally applicable to US media. The biases are institutionally entrenched. We can take some comfort in the knowledge that the Murdoch empire is likely to crumble. The key issue is who will fill the vaccum?
     
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    ^Interesting. Thank you for that; predictably the study will be seen as anti-Semitic and pro-Jihadist by the lunatic right-wing!
     
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    The Norwegian mass-murdering ideologue and Islamophobic Wilders fanboy will be here soon.
     
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    Thanks good post , but I'm sure you know what happens to journalists who persist in upsetting Israel , dont you ? They go berserk oncec threatened to put BBC on blacklist - no visas etc.

    Remember this :BBC in press freedom row with Israel

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/oct/19/pressandpublishing.israel


    "In an interview with a Hebrew magazine, Mr Seaman claimed that foreign reporters for the BBC, CNN, Reuters, Associated Press, ABC and CBS were all under the direct control of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority


    LOL -


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    LOL - they've got another name for Glen Beck , its " Toochis Lecher".

    ON THE OTHER HAND :-

    U.S. Jews warn Israel not to get too cozy with Glenn Beck
    Rabbi Eric Yoffie, President of the Union for Reform Judaism, says Beck is very extreme and controversial even among right-wing groups in the United States
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    Seymour Reich, former chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations and a leading New York attorney, said Tuesday that he believed Beck was taking rude advantage of Israel in order to rehabilitate his television career and reputation.

    Reich said he believed Israeli and Jews everywhere should be careful about embracing an extreme right-winger like Beck, who shows sympathy for Israel in order to hide his extreme-right ideology.

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    more

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...-not-to-get-too-cozy-with-glenn-beck-1.380323



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    It seems that intelligent Israelis don't much care for this prick either . Nevertheless, he typifies the right-wing white christian extremist, an Anders Breivic of the airwaves . His broadcasts and antics still titillate and disturb mentally vulnerable Americans.
     
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    And no doubt Dutch Wilder's fanboys too.
     
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    Oh im going to print this, frame it and hang it over my bed:love:
     
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    Self praise is no recommendation. Wise old proverb.
     
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    Its not supprisng at all, what is the line rate in European media? does it even have Israeli Hasbara?

    you have your forts we have ours

    The sad thing is none of them will help us to get where we want, we're the Arena of the new world, we supply blood for the masses while they cheer their champions.
     
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    We've had our share of Hasbara apparatchiks trying to infect this forum with lies, revisionist history and propaganda. Fortunately they are easily detected and don't stick around long after being unmasked.
     
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    One thing the weirdoes tend to leave out is that quite a number of Palestinians are in fact Christian, having remained so since their distant ancestors abandoned Judaism. The problem, I suppose, is that fundamentalists know nothing of Christianity, and hate it almost as much as they hate the Islam the rest of the descendants of Old-Testament Jewry accepted.

    My Father said he was on a nazi death list, and what he told me about that gang's propaganda activities closely resembles that of the liars you mention.
     
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    And that's kinda difficult to understand. Israel is a haven for ex-pat Bolsheviks.
     
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    The Israeli-American relationship is unwinding. American restraints on Israeli behavior are being eliminated. Egypt goes first.
     
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    >>>Good. We might as well have been supporting Leon Trotsky. I hope our relationship with the U.S. neoconservatives unwinds, too. At least I have that much in common with Ron Paul.
     
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    I hope that American leftist ideology is swept away. If that constitutes the cutting of ties I'm all for it.

    What happens in the Middle East is not an American problem. Let the parties in interest settle this any way they deem appropriate.
     
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    What about the rightist Beckian ideology that maintains the ties with Israel. Shouldn't that be swept away?
     
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    Yes.....................
     
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    Beck is just simply a nut.

    He makes Jewish settlers and Palestinian extremists look sane.
     
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    yepp, with 'friends' like Beck and Hagee the Israeli people do not need enemies.
     

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