US recession fears are growing

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  1. LangleyMan

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    You're ignoring the reality he's trying to lever up on China without the economic clout he needs.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    Uh huh. You're going to make natural resources.
     
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    The US inherently has the upper hand when it comes to trade negotiation leverage.

    The trade benefits China far more than it benefits the US. China is the partner running a big trade surplus.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US is a big country, it has plenty of natural resources.

    A bit too many people though.
     
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  5. LangleyMan

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    You're going to make eight-year-olds pay for their education?
    Are you trying to make this country uncompetitive? Our public schools are already weak compared to other industrialized countries.
     
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    Are you, with your high tax rates and burdensome regulations on industry?

    Not to mention higher American wages.

    I don't see you being consistent.
     
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    Trade with America--all of it--is less than 4% of their economic output. Give your head a shake.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't know exactly what you are trying to say.

    What's the percentage of America's output?
     
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    Who says I'm a fan of high business taxes or red tape? Did you fall on your head.
    Wages are a return to labor for what it can produce.
    Yeah, the positions you make up for me and the ones I express are at odds.
     
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    Nothing to do with supply and demand?

    America labor competes with Chinese/Mexican labor, wages go down.

    As long as there are better jobs for all the American workers, and as long as it's sustainable, that's not an issue.

    (better than what the demand would otherwise permit if that international trade wasn't there)
     
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  11. LangleyMan

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    Even if we stopped all trade with China, they would still have 96% of their market left.
     
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    Of course, it has everything to do with markets.
     
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    It's weak because we caudle and babysit instead of teach.

    But in the modern political debate when we talk about free education, everybody including you knows we are talking about college, quit trying to play gotcha.
     
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    How much market would the US lose?

    if we're making a fair comparison

    probably less than that
     
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    We can't do enough damage to their economy to make them kowtow.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    It's less, but what's the point you're making?
     
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    We export a lot of services. What are you talking about?
     
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    We also have lousy teachers because we don't pay enough money to hire qualified staff.
    We give scholarships now that typically disappear if the student doesn't perform. Why not extend the opportunity to most folks?
     
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    I wouldn't bother trying to coordinate anything with our current UK government, they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

    Some coordinated approach is what's needed but because America's allies are suffering majorly from Trump Derangement Syndrome, they must band together and do the opposite.
     
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    So you are saying our teachers suck?

    Did you know paying sucky employees more doesn't make them better employees?

    So we should offer more money to teachers to draw them out of the private sector.
    What's the private sector gonna do to get qualified people?

    Do we really want to get in a wage war with the private sector over teachers?

    How about parents get off their lays asses and raise their kids properly so that the good teachers we do have can actually do their jobs. Parents could also stop thinking that their poor little Johnny is a good kid and blame teachers for saying the truth about their little terrorist.
    Yes maybe he should go through the 3rd grade 6 times because won't do the work.

    The kids are the problem not the teachers, what that really means is that adults are crappy parents.
     
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    Yeah? What exactly was he supposed to do with a Democrat lead Congress to amenda a process that started in the 70's?
     
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    Only they will not have cellular cause Qualcom has the royalties, android belongs to google and iphone is Apple.
    They will not have pcs cause of Microsoft and Intel. No finance cause everything has go go through us banks.
    We can continue in every direction, it will be blocked almost on the spot.
    It is not about the income from sales, it is the whole economy.
     
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    By focusing the attention of legislators on baseless claims, the pointless pursuit of evidence, discussion of procedures to get that evidence... People should step back and consider the obvious:

    Trump is simply incapable of deceiving seventeen intelligence agencies, if Trump made some secret deal with Putin we would have evidence by now, unquestionable, tangible proof.

    People should also realize part of the problem is incapacity to accept a differing view. If you support abortion, renewable energy, LGBTQ rights, open borders, free healthcare... you simply can't understand how anyone could disagree that these should all be pursued, and dismiss anyone who doesn't advocate for them as vigorously as you do, as Hillary said, they are the deplorables.
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    Maybe not, but you never know.
    ?????

    Trump is an obnoxious jackass toward other countries and they're not about to fall into line behind the U.S. on trade issues.
     
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