US willing to go it alone against Syria if needed

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  1. DrewBedson

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    No I am not whatsoever. I am referring to the reparations, return of foreign nationals, cessation of support for terrorism, adherence to the dropping of WMD aspirations and cessation of material breaches vis a vis inspections as detailed by UNSC Resolutions 660 - 1441.

    If you have not read them then perhaps you should as they detail the entire authorization of use of force by members who attacked Iraq as part of the Gulf War which, was part of the same conflict as the US was involved in to invade Iraq..
     
  2. Horhey

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    The inspectors were told to leave by the Clinton administration because they were about to bomb. The Iraqis were not fully cooperating with the inspectors because the Clinton administration subverted the inspection process into a spying program aimed at gathering intelligence on Saddam's location. They were trying to both assassinate him so one of his Generals could take over and organize a coup. And the United States supports and harbors terrorists so if were going to bomb Iraq for giving money to families of suicide bombers we should also bomb ourselves. Saddam and Al Qaeda were enemies so enough of that nonsense.
     
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    UNSC Res 1441 of November 2002 gave Iraq one last and final opportunity to adhere to the ceasefire conditions which demanded they provide "immediate and unconditional" support for inspections.

    n the 7 March, 2003, Hans Blix, chief inspector testified that Iraq had not and thus was in material breach of the ceasefire.
     
  4. Horhey

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    The hell they didnt. They had full access. Remember people telling Bush to "let the inspectors do their work"?

    Im just gonna show you what the war was about. You keep grabbing straws. The world opposed the war for a reason.
     
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    Sorry. Just going by what the head inspector told the United Nations Security Council a week before the invasion occurred when they wanted to know if Iraq was adhering to their lat and final opportunity to adhere to them and he came back with the informaton they were not.

    Go ahead, the UNSC is nothing compared to your words and wishes.

    Sure. The Frankenstein pitchfork and torches mob were against it but their governments unanimously agreed to it by voting fifteen out of fifteen to allow not only for any action deemed necessary to get Iraq to adhere but to agree that in November 2002 this was their last and final opportunity to do so.

    As I stated earlier, on March 7, 2003, the head inspector stated to the UNSC that Iraq was in material breach and was not complying with the ceasefire conditions.
     
  6. happy fun dude

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    Go it alone?!?!? Why not? Why would USA, with the strongest fleet in the world by far, need HELP for a simple, one-off, warning, "limited" strike? We do those daily, as we speak.

    How hard is it to shoot off a couple missiles?

    Could it be because anyone knows, including the USA, that it is a LOT more than that, it's actual FULL-FLEDGED war, and once again, THEY ARE LYING about it?

    They want war, we will get nothing but war, but they are playing it like they're being nice just giving a little warning strike, and that's not aggressive because of how bad the CW attack was. And then propaganda will follow about how Syria started the war, and when we're waste-deep in WW3, like WW1, people will wonder how/why we're involved. Clever trickery.

    DON'T BELIEVE THEM.

    Ask Obama why he wants WAR, not a stupid "limited" strike.
     
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    Back in the day, I used to ritualistically burn Bush effigys. (I got the idea about the burning bush from the bible).

    I hated him. He could be frozen to death like he had done to an innocent guy in Afghanistan.

    BO took over. Soon after that, I tried begging W if he could take back over again, but these guys in suits and sunglasses wouldn't let me anywhere near him.

    W was a lousy president, but Obama is a traitor. At least W treated our enemies like enemies, even if he went about it wrong.
     
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    Look look...

    And finally..

     
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    Good post. We can tell their agenda is not what they say. If human rights and brutal oppression were a problem, they would liberate North Korea. If protecting innocent Americans were the agenda, they would provide those funds to wage war against the street-gangs who kill more innocent Americans on home soil than the Muslim terrorists could ever even dream of, many 9/11s worth.
     
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    One more...

    Because that's what empires do.
     
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    Not by morons, no, but they are indiscriminate chemical weapons nonetheless.
     
  12. happy fun dude

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    Iraq didn't attack us.
     
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    - - - Updated - - -
    The line was there but Biden came by and sniffed it up like he always does.
     
  14. happy fun dude

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    In a decade or two, upon global UAV proliferation, this jig will be up.

    It's the same as nukes. Great fun when we're the only ones who's got 'em.. Once everybody and their Grandma has one, it's another story.
     
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    Yes many Brits, particularly conservatives, have been chompin' at the bit for war with Assad for some time before the chem attack, but it's just as much coming from the USA.. Listen to the comments of McCain for example. A large contingent of the US congress wants the war, and Obama wants the war (don't believe his trickery when he says he wants anything short of full-scale war).

    And once again, I would bet on it, we will have invasion, boots on the ground, in Iran, by the end of Obama's term. That's the end-game in the Middle East. Look at the think-tank plans for global domination the USA has been following to a t
     
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    Yes, well Parliament certainly felt we would likely be wee drawn in with Syria at least yesterday. So it seems do many of the American military

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...5dd5d4-10ee-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story.html

    If they really wanted to be of help to the civilians there, they could begin with Geneva 2 allowing Assad, Iran and non violent opposition in ...but hey, maybe they do not want to find peace in the area.
     
  17. happy fun dude

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    All they care about is shooting a few missiles. Simultaniously, hundreds of thousands of refugees are at crisis point. (*)(*)(*)(*) the refugees.

    Of course, a one-off "limited" strike isn't a priority over helping people. And the leaders probably don't have the agenda of helping people at all. But the leaders do not think the warning strike is a priority either. It's the guise of their priority. Their real priority is full-scale war. The wrist-slap is merely the first shot to initiate hostilities.

    The only difference between what we'll get, and what they say, is that they (like that in and out 6 mo. Iraq invasion that will pay for itself) are trying to mislead us into thinking we're only committing to a warning strike and that's no big deal. The fact is a world of difference.
     
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    Zionists are honest people, and they are against killing civilians?

    :D

    You have made my day!


    Were Zionists not caught red handed when they were planning to kill American civilians and blame this atrocity against American civilians on "them Moslems", in order to involve the USA in a war for Israel?

    Were the Zionists who planned these atrocities against Americans not honoured by the Israeli government for their "false flag operation"?

    Were Zionists not caught red handed when they were trying to sink an unarmed American ship, killing a lot of Americans, and blame this atrocities on "them Moslems" in order to involve the USA in a war for Israel?

    Did M. Albright not publicly admit that the death of half a million of Iraqi children was OK, because it was in the interests of Zionists?

    Were Zionists not caught red handed fabricating false information about the Saddam's WMD or the supposed Ahmadinejad's desire to "wipe Israel off the map"?

    Were Zionists not recently caught red handed burning alive Palestinian children with White Phosphorous?

    Why on earth should anybody in his right mind still believe Zioinists' lies?
     
  19. happy fun dude

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    Let's just get the refugees out. Anyone who wants to leave can, anyone who wants to stay can. Any combatants may leave with full immunity if they lay down their weapons and stop fighting.

    Those who don't, HAVE AT IT!

    You may send anyone you want there to fight. It will be the new proxy arena. No fighting elsewhere.
     
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    There is an empty field at the bottom of my garden, why not invite them all here to fight it out, I'll sell tickets.
     
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    White phosphorous is banned by Geneva convention as unhuman weapon type.

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    It's a game we play. The GOP conquers the world while the DNC protests. Then the DNC conquers the world while the RNC protests. It's like a fascist river dance.

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    Just so everyone knows, the Obama administration just came out and said that any comparisons to Iraq are not justified, so stop it!!

    Just say'in. :roflol:
     
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    People think if you call it something else, it changes its nature. Dioxin gets concentrated fifty times the proper use level, and dropped on crops and people, killing them. But it's okay because it's a "herbicide".

    It is what it is.

    So in this case, we have chemicals that are used to attack people. But those are not chemical weapons. Yeah sure whatever.

    It's like when you're on your murder trial. You can say "who cares if I shot the guy to death? It wasn't even a gun. It was a trigger-activated metal projectile shooter".

    And then the judge is like, "Oh right, okay then. Sorry for the misunderstanding. You're free to go."
     
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    Almost half of the British Parliament voted for war against Syria. Why dont instead they go to war against Zimbabwe to punish Mugabe for his genocide against Rhodesian farmers?
     
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    Well your country made a pronouncement lately that in case Syria will be punished by the US, Israel will get the brunt of it from Syria... Well, well, well... this grandiloquent words might come to haunt the Syrian regime, for Israel is not going to be the target of Assad or any other dictator... and I have a message from the Jews of Israel.

    I am not the least afraid to go any place, by bus or to a mall.

    I didn't change or stop doing anything I used to do before this mess began!

    People tend to forget that twice the casualties from terror get killed on
    the roads!

    More people still die from heart attack, cancer, and other things; they just
    don't show them on TV.

    Don’t misunderstand me, there is a war going on in your country, it's not pleasant,
    but, lets face it:

    WE HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER OFFHERE IN ISRAEL!!!!

    It's only TV and the media that make people think that the end of the world is coming.

    Only 66 years ago, they were leading Jews to their death like sheep to the slaughter!

    No Country, No Army. 60 years ago!!

    Seven Arab countries declared war on the small Jewish State, Only a few hours old!!

    We were then 650,000 Patriot Jews! Against the rest of the Arab world!

    No IDF [Israel Defense Force]. No mighty Air Force, Just tough people with nowhere to go.

    Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, attacked all at once.
    The country the UN "gave us" Was 65% desert.

    Israel started from scratch!
    46 years ago!! We fought the three strongest armies in the Middle East, And
    wiped them out in six days.

    We fought against Different coalitions of Arab countries, with modern
    armies, and masses of Soviet Russian weapons, and we still won!!!

    We have today a country, an army, a strong Air Force, a Hi-Tech Economy,
    exporting millions.

    Intel - Microsoft - IBM develops their stuff here.

    Our doctors win world prizes for medical developments.

    We made the desert flourish, Selling oranges and vegetables to the world.
    Israel has sent its own satellite into Space!! Three satellites all together!

    We sit proudly, With the US, with 300 million people, With Russia, with 200
    million people, With China, with 1.1 billion people, With the Europeans
    -- France, England, Germany, with 350 million people, the only countries
    in the world to shoot something into space!!

    Israel is today in the world nuclear power family With the US, Russia,
    China, India, France, and England. [We don't admit it, but every one
    knows...]

    To think that only 70 years ago, we were led, Shameful, with no hope, to our
    death!!

    We crawled out of the burning ashes of Europe, We won our wars here with
    less than nothing in our hands, and we rebuilt our "patrimony" out of nothing.

    Who the hell is Mr Assad, Mr. Haniyeh To makes me scared? You
    make me all laugh!

    Passover was already celebrated; Let's not forget what the story is all about. We
    overcame Pharaoh, We overcame the Greeks, We overcame the Romans, We
    overcame the Inquisition in Spain, We overcame the Pogroms in Russia, We
    overcame Hitler, We overcame the Germans, We overcame the Holocaust, We
    overcame the armies of the seven Arab countries, We overcame Saddam.
    Take it easy, folks, we will overcome the present enemies too.

    No matter which part of human history you try!

    Think of it, for us, The Jewish people, and our situation has never been
    better!!!

    So, Let's lift our Heads High, Let's Remember:

    Any nation or culture that tried to mess around with us was destroyed -
    while we kept going!!! Egypt?

    Anyone know where his or her empire disappeared? The Greeks? Alexander of
    Macedonia? The Romans? Does anyone today speak Latin?

    The Third Reich? Anyone heard any news about it lately?

    And look at us, The Nation from the Bible, From Slavery in Egypt; we are
    still here, speaking the same language!! Right here, right now.

    The Arabs don't know it yet, but they will learn that there is one G-d.

    As long as we keep our identity, we are eternal. So, sorry for not
    worrying anymore… Not (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing anymore…Not crying anymore, Not being scared anymore.

    Things are O.K. Here. They surely can be better…

    But still: Don't fall for the media junk, They won't tell you That there
    are Festivals going on, That people keep on living, That people are going
    out, That people are seeing friends. Yes, our morale is low, so what?
    It's only because we weep for our dead while they enjoy the bloodletting.

    This is the same reason why; we will win, after all.
    You can forward this post if you choose. To the whole Jewish community,
    And to people throughout the world.

    They are part of our strength. It might help some of them to keep their
    heads up high. Tell them that there is nothing to worry about. Tell them
    to think BIG, and to see the whole picture.

    "See You Next Year in Jerusalem."
     

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