USA: "All settlements are illegitimate"

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  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No ta. Why would any sane people want to do that? The Hitler-imitators can strut around a while, like the crusaders, but Palestine doesn't belong to racist colonialists, does it? It has a population (Palestinians) descended from the first settlers, after all.
     
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    who were the "first" settlers?
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people who came up out of Africa, presumably. Why do you ask? Except where hunter-gatherer societies have been displaced by farmers pretty well all countries have populations descended mainly from the first settlers, obviously. The Khazars and other converts to Judaism came from elsewhere, as you know, and unless called Cohen are extremely unlikely ever to have had ancestors in Palestine.
     
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    genetic research shows otherwise.

    Genetically speaking, all Jews have more in common with Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Kurds, than any other ethnic group on Earth.
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conceivably, but genetics is a new and untried science, and Zionists always lie. Why do Jews from different parts of the earth look exactly like the other people in those places, do you think?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    proof you are not guided by science, but by irrational bigotry.

    Jews do NOT look exactly like the peoples that they live around. I don't know where you got this idea. Maybe you haven't met many Jews.
     
  7. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lots of Jews, but they don't look anything like the ones from Africa or Asia, whereas they do look exactly like my own ancestors. Before I did family history I was sure I was Jewish.
     
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    I am a Jew. We all know what Jewish facial features are. We do not look exactly like our Gentile neighbors in Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Britain, France, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, etc.

    Some Jews look very similar. Some Jews do not.

    Its an ignorant lie to say that ALL European Jews look just like their Gentile neighbors.
     
  9. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They look more like 'em than not, and not a bit like their co-religionists from the Middle East. I've certainly heard it argued that 'Jewish' features are just general-European certainly. Racism is pure bull(*)(*)(*)(*) especially when you try to tie it to religion. Ex-Jews are just ex-Jews, same as ex-Christians and ex-Muslims are just 'ex'.
     
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    you don't know what you're talking about
     
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    No fake, cocker, I'm as British as they come According to an aunt with more money than sense , _ parish records , our family tree consists of Anglo-Saxon- with na few added I Scots-Irish-Welsh + a hint of Huguenot -

    Over the years , + from my personal experience , I found my few Palestinian friends far more sincere + reliable , than any Jew I've ever met in the real world.


    IMO _ One can only go according to one's own direct experiences


    ......
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so why is your English soo poor?
     
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    Gertcha - you haven't even attempted to understand what lolo said , but never mind . its probably much too deep + far beyond your capacity.

    tata....
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    To my opinion Ronstar is Jewish BUT pro Palestinian. Why do you attack him ?
    For not being fanatic left wing ?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    So you addmit , 99% of your knowledge about the Israeli Arab conflict is from "few Palestinian friends" ... Plus maybe the local media..
    Poor.

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    You think that if you are Pro Palestinian , the Arabs will like you ? :roflol:
    Arabs hate Palestinians the most, next to Jews..
     
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    If you've read several of my earlier posts , you'd have noted , that I've also on two separate occasions visited Israel/Palestine pre - 1967 - one on a Holy Land tour.
    It was only AFTER such visits - seeing conditions first hand - that I ceased swallowing Zionist crap propaganda and understood what a crafty bunch of deceitful liars they are, and it was much later that I also learnt much more , mainly from Jewish sources , Haaretz - Peace Now - JewsNotZionist. and other anti-Zionists , too many to name .

    btw -
    Yes - some local media like this - written by Jews .

    "
    Why I am no longer a Zionist By wayne myers

    In this highly personal guest contribution, a British and Jewish blogger reflects on his youth membership of Zionist movements, the recent conflict in the Middle East between Israel and Hamas, and how his relationship with faith changes as he gets older


    (its long but quite interesting - )
    (short concluding extract :

    .

    Full article :http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-i-am-no-longer-a-zionist-8364214.html

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    There' are ever increasing numbers of diaspora Jews who are turning away from -Zionism and disappointed at what Israel has become.

    here's another Jewish group

    http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/campaigns/standing-against-islamophobia

    Independent Jewish Voices ----- http://ijv.org.uk/


    This is a good one from Canada : http://ijvcanada.org/

    and Australia - http://iajv99.wordpress.com/

    ...
     
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    "The General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine" by Miko Peled. is on my bookshelf - read it last year.

    Watch - ;listen and learn :

    [video=youtube;c4ZfnpN4Dfc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZfnpN4Dfc[/video]

    .... Oy-vey.
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't care who likes me or hates me.

    I am on the side of truth & justice.
     
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    Good for you. I have no reason to like or dislike you as a person - whether Jew or Gentile - I can only go by what you say. WE'll no doubt continue to agree on some and disagree on others. Truth + justice is a noble quest , but all too often its relative - depends on which side of a political conflict ones sympathies are.

    Here's another source for MGB apart from those I've posted earlier :

    Nurit Peled-Elhanan

    [video=youtube;pWKPRC-_oSg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWKPRC-_oSg[/video]

    cheers.
     
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    Why is reading you sometimes like reading Nostradamus?
     
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    Jews do not publish death "Fatwas" on wayne myers just because he is fanatic left wing.. Muslims do it like in the case of Mr. Rushdi..
    Regarding your so called "media" - Haaretz - Peace Now - JewsNotZionist - Blahh 50% Palestinian supported left wing "media" craP ... give us a break.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Thank you !! i'll take that as a compliment.
    Many prophecies Nostradamus wrote were fulfilled...
    You can enjoy my other comments .free of charge :wink:

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    I respect that.
    I hope to read your views regarding Egypt and Syria OP's.
     
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    You did it again.

    And no, none of Nosts quatrains have come true.
     
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    Many do not agree with your view. Have you facts for that saying ? Probably NO.
    Many agree that some of his prophecies came true.
    Byyyeeee
     
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    I'm really not surprised that you've failed to understand a single world said by Nurit Peled-Elhanan in the video I've posted perhaps coz you've got your head so deep
    into where the sun don't shine .+ totally incapable of receiving any information which runs contrary to those to which you've been indoctrinated by yr Zionist thought controllers.

    "Chinaman , he say " Closed mind - same like closed book = block of wood "

    tata
     

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