Vaccines and reducing the world's population.

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Are many influential people willing to use vaccines to reduce the world's population?

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  3. I hope not

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  1. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

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    More unsubstantiated claims. Must be a day with 'Y' in it.

    Very specific claims were made about COVID vaccines causing a 'holocaust'. Didn't happen.
    Other claims are being made about 'Diabolical' vaccines being used to reduce population. Not happening.

    Meanwhile the world's population continues to increase. An informed person might start to suspect that anti-vaxxers just keep making outlandish claims designed to scare people without ever backing them up.
     
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    If they can engineer a vaccine that does all this killing, why couldn't they create a deadly plague? I going to have to with the deep state elites are going to engineer a plague and kill off everyone who won't get the vaccine. That way they keep the intelligent people, but get rid of the stupid ones.
     
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    These are neither claims, nor are they unsubstantiated. You seem not to be aware of the studies & data, but only the propaganda.

    You're missing the point.

    What matters and what is fact is that the vaxxes are neither safe, nor provide any health benefit. They're all based on the pseudo-science of 'virology' - and, every single vax is poisonous to the body (including pet vaxxes). The vaxxes, since their first use, have both injured and killed untold numbers of people globally - but the exact figures are difficult to determine because vax injuries/deaths are often not blamed on the vax (even to this day) due to the medical professional's bias for the safety/efficacy of vaxxes. If a healthcare professional isn't looking for the possibility that the vax injured/killed someone, then they won't find it. They'll blame it on something else - like a non-existent disease-causing 'viral' infection.

    If you take any shots (either the Covid or non-Covid vaxxes) you're playing Russian roulette. Period.

    I already explained why population is increasing. And this increase will continue because the birth rate exceeds the death rate. Think how many children a single female can have in her lifetime, and how many children her children can have, and how many children her children's children could have before she herself dies. She could become a great grandmother with many children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren long before her or anyone in her family dies. In 3rd World, poverty stricken nations, this is common.

    Anti-vaxxers, if they be well informed, don't make such claims to scare people, but because they understand the history, the nature, and the toxicity of vaxxes. So it's actually the pro-vaxxers that have no basis for an argument since they have nothing to fall back on but pharma & govt propaganda.

    As far as a vax 'holocaust', this has been going on since the widespread campaign to inoculate mass numbers of people began. Numerous doctors & scientists have been warning the public (and still do) about these toxic shots for a long time - but their voices are drowned out by incessant pharma & govt propaganda. So there is some truth to it, considering the untold harm vaxxes have caused for generations.

    Further, it's important to note that because a vax will not always injure/kill a person within a few days or weeks, it gives the impression that an injury/death that occurs later on was not caused by the vax. So the injury/death will be blamed on something else - eg, a 'virus', a pre-existing condition, a 'sudden & unexplainable' health event, etc.
     
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    One cannot create a vax-induced plague by engineering either a novel or pre-existing 'virus' because viruses simply don't exist in nature. There's absolutely zero scientific confirmation for the existence of a virus - let alone a contagious/infectious, disease-causing one. Thus the Wuhan 'lab-leak' theory is complete bullshit, as is any other 'theory' they come up with concerning a fictitious 'virus.'

    But they don't have to engineer a 'pathogen' to harm mass numbers of people. The shot by itself is a chemical soup of toxins that are extremely poisonous to the body, and alone it can severely injure or kill a person - either quickly, or later in life.

    Besides, 'germs' are a very poor method of harming/killing people, which is why it's never used by govts and the military. Chemicals are far more deadly, which is why chemical warfare, and not biological warfare, is used.
     
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    No, I am very much seeing the point. You just don't seem to know (or care) that you are making it for me.

    Carry on.
     
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    Follow the science - not the propaganda.
     
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    Absolutely %100 correct in every aspect of what is I have highlighted in bold above.
     
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    I have made this point before, but sometimes there really IS no other way. My signature explains this noisy situation perfectly.

    In a topic about the utterly ludicrous and failed claim surrounding the vaccines, whereby it's suggested whole swathes of people are dropping dead (meh!), we now have the flat-earth-type batshittery about viruses not existing. A thread derail that is pointless to argue against - no amount of reasoning will suffice.
     
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    Just wow. I see you have gone deep down that rabbit hole and your ignorance of science is shocking. I know there is no way I'm going to convince you since it has been my experience in dealing with conspiracy theorists that one cannot change their minds, no matter what evidence one shows or what logic one uses, so I will be going along my way now. Just one little thing, the reason that governments and the military don't use biological warfare, is because unlike chemicals, bio-weapons replicate and infect more and more people. The risk of a bio-weapon getting out of control and killing your own people is quite high.
     
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    The rabbit hole is where the truth can be found, for it's where most people don't look because it's often covered up.

    Wrong. Bio-weapons have virtually no ability to infect, let alone sicken, large numbers of people. Doesn't matter whether its users get exposed to it or not. Biowarfare experts know this, and is why these are not used in war. Also, if they were used, their viability would be unreliable because they need a suitable environment to flourish in.

    In fact, there are stories I've read years ago of people who have tried to kill their spouses using germs (bacteria) - but their spouses never died, and some even got better (which is why yogurt, sauerkraut, kimchi & other cultured/fermented foods are so good for you).

    Germs are the good guys. Chemicals are the bad guys - which makes 'vaccines' (which are introduced directly into the body's blood/tissue without any chance for the body to process it first) extremely dangerous.
     
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    For me this fact concerning debate and altering anybody's opinion is baffling. If you look at this situation from a representative point of view, we are very often told that the person passing on their claims is a so called "truth-seeker". Surely, SURELY! this should be a variable thing? As one comes across new facts, contradictory in nature the position must accommodate them, not deny them at all costs to maintain the original claim. How can anyone think they know the truth when they avoid every piece of evidence showing their "truth" is a self-supporting exercise in confirmation bias.

    This is for @Scott who is "on the fence" with this batshittery:

    Description:
    "Please check out Frank Visser’s website and book where he also debunks virus-deniers in great detail:
    https://integralworld.net
    Staining for bacterial spores: https://microbiologyidea.com/2020/09/...
    Structure of a bacteriophage: https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?p...
    Plaque assays: https://star-protocols.cell.com/proto...
    SARS-CoV-2 in human tissues: https://elifesciences.org/articles/60361
    How next-generation sequencing works: [​IMG] • Overview of Illumina Sequencing by Sy...
    Human influenza challenge studies:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    Studies demonstrating that SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that causes COVID: Isolation of SARS-CoV-2 China - https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
    Korea - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    Australia - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
    Italy - https://journals.asm.org/doi/epub/10....
    Isolation protocol: https://www.protocols.io/view/culture...
    Characterization of specific cytopathic effects caused by SARS-CoV-2: https://www.nature.com/articles/s4146...
    Transmission https://www.thelancet.com/action/show...
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32422...
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...
    Koch’s postulates are outdated, and Robert Koch acknowledged this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti.
    Satisfaction of “Koch’s postulates” Production of comparable disease in the original host species or a related one and detection of a specific immune response to the virus:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s4139
    https://science.sciencemag.org/conten
    Re-isolation from infected host:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s4158
    Structural studies of SARS-CoV-2:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s4146
    https://science.sciencemag.org/conten
    Papers used for bonus pictures and structures of viruses:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti
    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108
    https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf
    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/110
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s4146
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/s
     
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    Nice video! I hope it at least persuades people on the fence to stay away from these conspiracies.
     
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    Viruses were first discovered in 1892 and first photographed (with an electron microscope) in 1932. Are you saying that over the next 100 years or so, scientists have been lying this whole time about viruses? Why? What do they have to gain?
     
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    Bill Gates and Al Gore WILL probably NOT BE PLEASED if this alternative theory on how to stabilize the climate WHILE bringing Shalom to the Middle East begins to catch on and go viral!


    I personally am hopeful that my nation Canada can inspire immigrants from the Middle East to

    come up with an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that will cause a surge toward SHALOM between Israel and her neighbouring Islamic nations.



    Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur.

    Book 005, Number 2208:
    "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
    SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)



    Assisting nine point four million Israelis and a billion Islamic neighbours to divert investment away from warfare and instead into large scale desalination of ocean water for
    agriculture, reforestation projects and to make life better for everybody who lives in the Middle East will lead to
    the fulfillment of Isaiah chapter thirty five. This fits with the Jewish concept of Tikkun Olam.


    Is there any important date that Mr. Al Gore and Mr. Bill Gates probably DON'T want the average Canadian or American to know about?

    Yes.....

    here is an important piece of the puzzle:

    "At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie! That's enough= ice to form a layer one mile wide and two miles high from New York to Chicago. And this is the buildup of only one year!"

    IN MY OPINION A CARBON TAX WILL DO ESSENTIALLY NOTHING TO PREVENT OCEAN LEVELS FROM RISING BUT......

    deliberately turning deserts green will tend to protect real estate that is vulnerable to the threat or rising ocean levels.

    "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land in English, Hebrew and Arabic?"


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ish-hebrew-and-arabic.621994/#post-1075037347
     
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    How was that possible before the electron microscope?

    What evidence did they have that the particles they were looking at were infectious, disease-causing virions and not something else? Can you cite a study that confirms such a claim?

    Former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka summed it up: "It's not that virologists are intentionally trying to deceive the public, but rather that they themselves have been deceived. They simply follow the procedures they were taught, and interpret the results in the way they were taught."

    Note that Lanka is referring to the average virologist/lab scientist - not those at the top of the medical industry (like Fauci, et. al.) & high govt offices who know the truth about viruses & vaccines.

    For those at the top that know the truth, what they gain is profits/business expansion, market domination/competitiveness, status, and influence/control.

    For those that are ignorant of the truth, what they gain is job security, a good paycheck, promotions/status, and the preservation of one's reputation.
     
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    Nope.
    Chronic circular reasoniung.
    Genuine advice - go and brush up on the subject. There are plenty of online courses for entry-level students. You have this option for every one of the conspiracy subjects you post about!
    Here's a suitable commentary.
     
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    I was checking out the hotlinks in this article...

    1 in 6 Germans Experienced COVID Vaccine Side Effects, Survey Finds
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...m=email&utm_campaign=defender&utm_id=20241017

    ...and I found this.

    Insurance Co. Finds Vaccination Side Effects Under-Reported by 1000%

    A German insurance company found that side effects caused by a COVID shot are a lot more common than officially reported. Due to reporting being a time-intensive and unpaid task, many doctors haven’t bothered to record side effects.

    https://europeanconservative.com/ar...cination-side-effects-under-reported-by-1000/
     
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    Off topic.
    I was going through those links and found that this stupid thread has failed to prove its premise. Either that or we are witnessing the most inept population cull possible!
    Hey, I was going through those links and I found some great info. Check it out viewers, don't follow batshit, follow evidence.
     
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    Things seem to be pretty bad in Australia too.

    Deaths in Western Australia increased SEVENFOLD after COVID-19 vaccine rollout
    https://www.newstarget.com/2024-10-...tralia-increased-sevenfold-after-vaccine.html
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    "I spoke with the company owners who we built it for, [a] local funeral director. They told me that in 2020, at the height of COVID-19, they were doing on average one funeral a week – one. [But] since the injection rollout, they're doing over one funeral a day. That's almost a sevenfold increase; it's frightening."
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    This video is two and a half years old.

    Vaccine Deaths Grossly Undercounted
    https://www.brighteon.com/859f7e7c-9432-42bc-a203-373ea1558062
     
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    @Scott The same batshit claims about "deaths" supposedly after rollout when the damn pandemic was at its worst! But to reiterate, there is nobody dying now, no culling of population. The most inept attempt at reducing population in history!

    It's all such tedious and never-ending horseshit.
     
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    Is this a serious post? The claim is proven nonsense, nobody is dying, the population is growing!
    Incredible spam. A comment made provably 50 times.

    So around you, in Madrid, people are all dying are they?
     

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