Vaccines and reducing the world's population.

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Are many influential people willing to use vaccines to reduce the world's population?

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  3. I hope not

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Yes and I don't need speculative crap to determine this. The virus has been shown to have many long term affects. So whilst you insist on promoting this hogwash about vaccines, that actually brought this pandemic to an end, you are simply ignoring fundamental issues associated with sars2.
     
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    Have you seen this?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...drug-remdesivir.594757/page-2#post-1074545620

    Did you use this?
    What are the six steps of the scientific method?
    The six steps of the scientific method include: 1) asking a question about something you observe, 2) doing background research to learn what is already known about the topic, 3) constructing a hypothesis, 4) experimenting to test the hypothesis, 5) analyzing the data from the experiment and drawing conclusions, and 6) communicating the results to others.
    What is a scientific method example?
    A simple example of the scientific method is:
    • Ask a Question: Why does Greenland look so large on a map?
    • Background Research: Learn that Greenland is a quarter the size of the United States in land mass. Also learn that Mercator projection maps are made by transferring the images from a sphere to a sheet of paper wrapped around the sphere in a cylinder.
    • Hypothesis: If I make a Mercator projection map, then the items in the middle of the map will look their true size and the items at the poles will look larger than they really are.
    • Experiment: Use a sphere with 1-inch by 1-inch squares at each pole and the equator to make a Mercator projection map. Measure the squares on the Mercator projection map.
    • Analyze Data and Make Conclusions: The middle-of-the-map squares average 1 inch per side while the squares at the poles average 3 inches per side. In conclusion, the projection process used to make Mercator projection maps creates distortion at the poles, but not at the equator. This is why Greenland, which is close to the North Pole, looks larger than it is.

    Nb. The scientific method involves two things, using it and understanding it. You have done neither on any post you have ever made.

    So, scientifically for your first batshit deceptive link. Are they really saying this proves "lethality"? The answer is a deafening NO! Not one of those studies is doing anything more than further investigate known and reported side effects. That's what scientists do.

    Now here is a request that a genuine object truth-seeker would answer!

    Find me 3 reports in that pathetic list that suggest the vaccine is lethal.

    Did you know that "Researchgate" is a dumping ground for anything and carries no peer-review system or any content validation process? Does that even bother you!?
     
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    There you go again focusing on me instead of the info. What's called for here is an analysis by a medical professional—not me. Being a layman all I can do is look at patterns. The other link seems to show that the symptoms in people discussed in those studies started about the time of the vaccine rollout and it seems consistent with what I'm seeing first-hand. I consider that to be enough evidence for it to merit serious consideration.
    You seem to think those studies don't show the vaccine to be lethal. If you're so sure that's the case, you tell us why.
     
  5. Betamax101

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    Pathetic. There I go again asking you to do the slightest of analysis! It's not focusing on you at all! It's focusing on the lying website you posted.

    Hogwash. What's called for is for you to simply read the damn reports and find any that support the claim, ie. "LETHAL"!

    Have you checked any of those country's data against what is claimed!? Where the hell is your scientific method? You must have used that phrase nearly 100 times!

    Nice try reversing the burden of proof!

    Find me 3 reports in that pathetic list that suggest the vaccine is lethal.
     
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    This doctor seems to think the boosters are worse than the first two shots.

    Robin Monotti - London Professor of Oncology calls for urgent stop to C19 boosters.


    London Oncology Professor “To advise booster vaccines, as is the current case, is no more and no less than medical incompetence; to continue to do so .. is medical negligence .. "
    https://peterhalligan.substack.com/p/london-oncology-professor-to-advise
     
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    Fauci vs Fauci. That pathological liar

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    https://makismd.substack.com/p/video-fauci-vs-fauci-texaslinday?

    Interesting comment in the comments section:

    Dr. Robert

    6 mins ago
    I know Anthony Fauci personally as I met him a few times during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when I was associate professor at the University of California San Francisco Medical School (UCSF) in the 1980's and 1990's.. I was also the Medical Director of the Department of AIDS Epidemiology and Biostatistics and have good knowledge of what happened at that time......... already at that time, rumors spread that HIV was a try-out of a bio-weapon (Gain-of-Function) but Idid not believe that..... currently, I am not sure anymore

    ----

    Wenstrup Releases Statement Following Day 1 of Dr. Fauci’s Testimony


    WASHINGTON — Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic Chairman Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio) issued the following statement after day one of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s two-day, 14-hour transcribed interview:

    “Dr. Fauci’s testimony today uncovered drastic and systemic failures in America’s public health systems. While leading the nation’s COVID-19 response and influencing public narratives, he simultaneously had no idea what was happening under his own jurisdiction at NIAID. Dr. Fauci signed off on all domestic and foreign research grants without reviewing the proposals and admitted that he was unaware if NIAID conducted oversight of the laboratories they fund. Clearly, the American people and the United States government are operating with completely different expectations about the responsibilities of our public health leaders and the accountability of our public health agencies.

    It is also concerning that the face of our nation’s response to the world’s worst public health crisis ‘does not recall’ key details about COVID-19 origins and pandemic-era policies. Nearly 1.2 million Americans lost their lives to a potentially preventable pandemic. I look forward to asking Dr. Fauci further questions about mandates, his role in prompting the ‘Proximal Origin’ publication, and his policy positions related to masks and lockdowns. Tomorrow’s testimony will continue the Select Subcommittee’s effort to deliver the answers Americans demand and deserve.”

    DR. FAUCI DAY 1 TAKEAWAYS


    The Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic questioned Dr. Anthony Fauci for seven hours yesterday (Jan 8, 2024) about his role during the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Fauci's testimony uncovered drastic and systemic failures in America’s public health systems.


    Key highlights by the Select Subcommittee from Dr. Fauci’s testimony:


    • Dr. Fauci claimed he “did not recall” pertinent COVID-19 information or conversations more than 100 times.


    • Dr. Fauci profusely defended his previous testimony where he stated
      that NIH does not fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan.


    • He repeatedly played semantics with the definition of gain-of-function in an attempt to avoid conceding that NIH funded this dangerous research.


    • Dr. Fauci testified that he signed off on every foreign and domestic NIAID grant without reviewing the proposals.


    • A 2020 email, previously released by the Select Subcommittee, proved Dr. Fauci was aware of dangerous gain-of-function research occurring in Wuhan, China. Today, he backtracked by arguing he should not have stated that as “fact.”


    • Dr. Fauci was unable to confirm if NIAID has ANY mechanisms to conduct oversight of the foreign laboratories they fund.


    • Clearly, the American people and the United States government are operating with completely different expectations about the responsibilities of our public health leaders and the accountability of our public health agencies. More accountability coming soon!
     
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  9. Betamax101

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    That's the same doctor as your other post! It's labelled incorrectly. It's Dalgleish again and the same thing applies.

    He has basically taken around 7 patients who have had the booster and months later a relapse and attributed it to the vaccine. That is a colossal failure to make as a scientist. He has established no causation and has failed to establish whether these patients had also contracted the virus, unknown or otherwise. Many carriers are essentially asymptomatic, but that does not mean untoward things are are not occurring at cellular level.

    As a side fact. This is the man who is promoting his own "microbial vaccine"! Hmmm, now I just wonder, is he suggesting people stop taking the vaccines that ended the pandemic and instead take his "wonder drug"? Not a conflict of interest at all, much!
     
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    No. Omicron infections did. Even the worlds most famous Doctor admitted it ;)

     
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    Huh? He literally just said 80% of the world are vaccinated or dealing with Omicron.

    WHO chief declares end to COVID-19 as a global health emergency | UN News
    "For over 12 months, the pandemic “has been on a downward trend”, he said, with immunity increasing due to the highly effective vaccines developed in record time to fight the disease, and infections. Death rates have decreased and the pressure on once overwhelmed health systems, has eased.

    “This trend has allowed most countries to return to life as we knew it before COVID-19”, Tedros added.

    ‘Torrent of mis- and disinformation’
    But he reflected that the impact of the pandemic had “exposed political fault lines, within and between nations. It has eroded trust between people, governments and institutions, fuelled by a torrent of mis- and disinformation.”"
     
  12. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that the case against BigPharma is gaining more and more momentum.

     
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    Ahh, the litigation bandwagon and US justice system! Even the UK are picking up on this cash cow.
     
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    Are you suggesting those with legitimate legal gripes should just not pursue them. Do you think the Canadian truckers, and recent decision by the federal courts that declared he acted outside of his legal authority should not have happened?

    Federal Court Declares Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "Acted Outside of His Legal Authority" When He Took Unreasonable and Unconstitutional Measures Against the Canadian Truckers
     
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    Nope.



    Start at 0:23

    "Sadly the virus itself particularly the Variant called Omicron is a type of vaccine (no, it's a virus, but whatever) in that it creates both B-cell and T-cell immunity and it's done a better job at getting out to the World's Population!"

    You have to try really hard to misunderstand that, but whatever, do your thing...

    He goes on to cite Africa and that 80% of the population has been exposed to either virus or vaccine (vaccine uptake was really low) and that "infection exposure (of Omicron, the SUBJECT HE WAS ON) dramatically reduced the risk" @ 1:06 onwards.

    So the mutation of a less lethal and more transmissible virus ended the pandemic, like usual. Spanish flu the same. History and Facts are on my side of this argument, although I have no doubt you'll find a way to insist it is not.
     
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    What do you mean, "do my thing"? My "thing" is NOT looking at a video (again!) and cherry picking a quote to create a false claim.
    That's called cherry-picking. He said VARIOUS variants.
    That is not what he said. He said in the case of Africa the various variants of the virus spread faster than the vaccine could be administered. He said for Africa.
    People either died (estimates range from 17 million to 100 million!) or their uncomfortable exposure gave them immunity.
    I have no doubt I will either. Had we failed to administer any vaccination program, covid-19 would have carried on sweeping through the World's population and caused probably more deaths than Spanish flu! It was BECAUSE of the vaccine that it didn't.


    An Analysis of COVID-19 Mortality During the Dominancy of Alpha, Delta, and Omicron in the USA - PMC (nih.gov)
    "For each additional percent increase in fully vaccinated individuals, the odds of death deceased by 1%. The odds of death prior to vaccine availability, compared to post vaccine availability, was 1.27. When comparing the time periods each variant was dominant, the odds of death was 3.45-fold higher during Delta compared to Alpha. "

    "The death rate during dominant period of Alpha, Delta, and Omicron were 5.3%, 7.5%, and 9.0% respectively and the overall death rate for all periods combined was 5.8%."

    "When Omicron became the dominant variant, the death rate for males, and females jumped to 11.4% and 7.1% respectively. The mortality gap between males and females was highest during the Omicron time period."

    "In conclusion, the risk of death for elderly patients by far was the most significant factor, followed by those who were admitted to the ICU, hospitalization, PMC, COVID-19 variant, sex, race/ethnicity, percent of fully vaccinated individuals, and vaccine availability. Among the variants, Delta was the deadliest, followed closely by Omicron. The slight reduction in risk during Omicron’s dominancy may be due to an increase in preparedness in how to treat the disease. It is important to note that an increase in the percentage of fully vaccinated individuals provided a significant reduction in the risk of death."
     
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    Funny isn't it.....
    how life expectancy in Canada has been falling for these past three years......

    if those Covid 19 vaccines that Dr. Tony Fauci promoted are so "safe and effective???"



    Life expectancy in Canada fell for the 3rd year in a row. What’s happening?
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    By Katie Dangerfield Global News
    Posted November 27, 2023 4:41 pm
    Updated November 27, 2023 8:44 pm
     
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    Or the horribly flawed supposed "cure????"
     
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    ~ Disease ' X ' is waiting in the wings ... :omg:
     
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    It was never touted as anything other than a vaccine! The vaccine may indeed have flaws, but the people who were affected by the flaws are probably the same people who would be badly affected by the virus.

    The people highlighting this drop, say it is related to the virus!
    The virologists are ready. We now have a fully tested delivery system that works and a method to create a fully functional vaccine.
     
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    Nope, it's right there at 0:23, he clearly says Omicron.

     
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    This is called cherry picking. Now start at 46 seconds!
     
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    I just found an interesting website this morning that puts a lot of testimonies together.....

    https://www.theylied.ca
     
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    Pick a couple of significant ones, go off and research the person making the claim and see if they have ulterior motives, the right experience, accurate data and then itemize it. I'm sick to death of having to do this for people who should always verify their sources when making outlandish claims.
     
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