Was Freud correct that the Judaeo - Christian ethic was necessary?

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Are we better off because of Moses/ Moshe?

  1. Yes.... the ten commandments are brilliantly written.

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  2. No..... religion is a major "root of all evil."

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  3. Yes...... I know of people who apply religion with wisdom and love.

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  4. No.... the religious people I know are self righteous angry idiots.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was Sigmund Freud correct that the basic Judaeo - Christian ethic was necessary for the formation of our culture and society?


    http://www.israelvoice.org/2016/01/03/desert-came-ethic-underpins-western-culture/

     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s not what the quote says. It says that we need some kind of rule set to support a structured society. It’s explicitly saying that doesn’t necessarily need to be religion, certainly not specifically Judaism or Christian (obviously, given there were stable societies that pre-dated them).

    I’m not sure why you needed to link a glorified book advert to reference the quote though.
     
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    Perhaps I am incorrect but for many years I have felt that democracy as we understand it in Canada, America, the British Commonwealth and Israel as well as in most other nations that are true democracies, emerged out of schisms within religion.

    Here in Canada, there was a tendency for Catholics to vote for the Liberal Party while Protestants tended to vote Conservative.

    The most socially conscious Canadians, such as Tommy Douglas, tended to support the New Democratic Party.

    The various denominations so disliked the idea of people from other denominations gaining political or economic power over their lives that this has partly led to our nations taking so naturally to democracy!

    A rather skeptical Israeli friend of mine had a rather negative view of the Ultra- Orthodox........ he certainly didn't want them to be in a position of complete and total control over Israeli culture and society?!
     
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    Many years ago I read that it was Israeli Agnostics and Atheists who were the strongest supporters of Operation Solomon and Operation Moses where thousands and tens of thousands of Falasha Jews from Ethiopia were airlifted to Israel.

    The Ultra-Orthodox Jewish community seemed to have a tendency to feel that the Falasha's were too susceptible to Messianic Judaism and respect for Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus!

    For the record.... I consider Operation Moses and Operation Solomon to be two of the most ethical, courageous and wise actions by any nation, on behalf of citizens of any other nation, in the last century!
     
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    Sounds a little simplistic to me. I think the development of democracies tended to come about as education, communications and travel became more wide spread and available to the general public. I suspect the earlier Catholic/Anglican split played a role too, possibly accelerating the process in some places but if it were the driving force, democracy would have come much sooner than it did. Ultimately though, such changes are complex and full of individual bumps, blockers and diversions which is why so many nations have developed quite different forms of democracy (or varying quality) on quite different schedules.

    I think the general idea of any particular groups voting in particular ways is flawed, often a self-fulfilling prophecy where it is true and somewhat anti-democratic in itself.
     
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    True........ over the past decade it has been noticed that both Catholics as well as Protestants who attended church on a regular basis had a marked tendency to vote "Conservative!"

    P. M. Stephen Harper's staunch support for the nation of Israel played a significant role in this.........…

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

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    I am a member of a different Canadian political party but……… I have to admit that P. M. Stephen Harper is for good reason regarded as a rather "Davidic" figure by a high percentage of Israelis.

    What he did for Israel back in 2011 at the G-8 was one of the most courageous and wise acts by a political leader that I have seen since I began to watch world events back in the '70's!






    On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit - The Globe and Mail

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...per-stands-alone-at-g8-summit/article4263322/
     

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