Was there a quid pro quo?

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For some long time, trump has aggressively asserted there was no QPQ.
    Trump has also asserted that witnesses who claimed a QPQ had no direct knowledge.
    Trump has also claimed (with no basis) that witnesses were “ never trumpets”

    Now we have testimony from a guy with direct knowledge, and a guy who could not be a never trumpet


    1. "I know that members of this committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a 'quid pro quo'? With regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes."

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    does that make trump a liar? Personally, I think not. I think Donald trump 9thinks” what ever he says is true. Although that is not necessarily reassuring about the truth of what trump says.

    anyway, it seems to me that there are two man things that remain unresolved...

    First, what is the extent of this mess, particularly concerning Giuliani and Pompeo

    second, what do we think about all this? Not only whether this is impeachable.... but also what do we think about a president who either does not know the truth, or will not tell the truth
     
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    Well let's see he's now clearly said Trump said no but he presumed so it seems we're right where we have been, somebody thought something. When he asked the President, Trump point blank said He didn't want anything from Ukraine, NO QUID PRO QUO. These feelings are making my head spin, yesterday we heard they didn't feel like there wasn't a quid pro quo.
     
  3. After-Hour Prowler

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    First it was quid pro quo
    Then it was extortion
    Then the focus group got them to change it to bribery.
    Now it is back to quid pro quo
    But trump said no quid pro quo

    I need a Dramamine ....
     
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    Sondland contradicted that today.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is the quid pro quo?

    Burisma Indictment Reveals Ex-President Yanukovich Illegally Obtained $7.4 Billion Laundered Thru Fund "Close to US Democratic Party".
     
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    For a statement, not aid. No evidence aid was held for that.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you think Donald Trump was concerned about corruption in Ukraine?
     
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    That's his job before handing over tax payers dollars.
     
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    A statement that was never made.
     
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    Trump left the self important never Trumper "diplomats" outta the loop and it's obvious the leakers and saboteurs were furious about that.
     
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    There is only one if both sides carried out what the qpq entailed .

    And nothing was carried out .

    Wanting one is not the same as getting one .

    So in action , in reality the qpq never existed.

    Should you not get a qpq in order to be accused of a qpq?

    Or do we impeach over a thought crime ?

    Isn't this just more of the dems trying to remove a president from office after the collusion scam and obstruction allegation failed?

    I wonder if trump called democratic leadership and told them he would stop trying to stop illegal immigration as well as allowing china, wall street and MNCs to continue to disembowel America and her people if they would forget impeaching him, if they would agree?

    Isn't trump putting America first the real
    Problem here? Given both parties sold out most Americans to globalists who need it to max out their own wealth. And a managed decline of our country that enriches our donor elites in our decline?
     
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    Was there a quid pro quo?

    Of course. There is a quid pro quo in any transaction or negotiation. The question is about the motivation behind it. No smoking gun. Sorry.
     

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