WATCH LIVE: President Trump‘s 2019 State of the Union Address and the Democratic Response

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  1. chris155au

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    For his entire 8 years?
     
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    why did Trump not repeal ObamaCare...... same reason.... did not have the votes
     
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    why not offer both
     
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    you said "Name just ONE other reason."

    and I gave you one other reason.... then you reply with this nonsense?

    those two by the way are some good reasons...

    Trump wants a wall for ego reasons, no other President named their walls after themselves, Trump has some body issues, and he thinks a big wall will make up for his shortcomings
     
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    I don't understand. DACA isn't a law, it is an Executive Order. Why in the hell can't Trump issue an Executive Order which says that immigration laws will be enforced against everyone residing in the US? Wouldn't this effectively rescind DACA? How could some federal judge stop Trump from doing that?
     
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    Yes, "one other reason" other than the ones that we have discussed! We already talked about your 'no plan' reason and 'racism' reason. So is there in fact a THIRD reason? Or just the two?
     
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    Because citizenship for a certain class of people not based on merit is an insane idea. Why do you think it is a good idea?
     
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    So Obama never had the votes for his entire 8 years?
     
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    Obama illegally imposed DACA by executive order

    Trump was elected and he reversed the order

    But liberals found an obama judge who issued a “stay”

    It was an abuse of judicial authority but the stay ties trumps hands till a higher court overrules the liberal judge
     
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    You mean he TRIED to reverse the order?
     
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    Do you accept that DACA was a blatant ABUSE of the executive branch of government?
     
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    No

    Trump reversed it

    But a federal judge issued a stay against his order
     
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    Alright, so DACA cannot be reversed right now, but like I said, why in the hell can't Trump issue a NEW Executive Order which says that immigration laws will be enforced against everyone residing in the US? Wouldn't this effectively reverse DACA without DACA itself actually being reversed?
     
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    Because citizenship for a certain class of people not based on merit is an insane idea. Why do you think it is a good idea?
     
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    why do you want to punish the Dreamers that came here as children by no fault of their own and no of no other home though
     
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    these were children that came here through no fault of their own... WWJD
     
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    Hence why I wouldn't kick them out! What does Jesus say about CITIZENSHIP?
     
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    This isn't my proposal. I'm simply asking why Trump can't do it.
     
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    do you want Trump to do it?
     
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    I don't know, what does Jesus say about it - wonder how many of the dreamers have the name Jesus

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25:40&version=KJV

    Matthew 25:40 King James Version (KJV)
    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
     
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    Didn't you see where I said, "this isn't my proposal?" Plus:
     
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    so your against Trump doing it?

    Trump should agree to give citizenship to the Dreamers for his wall funding, pretty stupid of Trump not too

    that would be a easy win\win for both sides, both sides could go home winners and move on to the next issue
     
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    And what do you think that is saying?
     
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    says Trump is a bad President
     
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    Yes. How did you not get that from me saying that I wouldn't kick them out?"

    And Democrats should agree to give TPS to the Dreamers if it ever came down to that. Do you disagree? Again, isn't TPS better than nothing?
     

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