WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

I just Googled "Phoenix shooting Ryan Whitaker" and this killing still hasn't been resolved however, there have been protests and pressure from hundreds of people who are angry about this inexcusable killing.

So far, I'm aware of no one who sees this as a justified killing.


"More than 130 days later, family of Phoenix man shot by police demands justice"
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/m...of-phoenix-man-shot-by-police-demands-justice

 

Well you have now. Pressure from hundreds of misinformed hypocrites (who presumably think it's ok to answer the door with a gun in your hand), every cop who watched this would have empathy with the officer.

 

What cop murderer? What are you talking about?

Could have been me, could have been any of us. How about you have some empathy with this officer? What mental contotrtions, the gunman brought the weapon around as if he was going to shoot the contact officer, end of story.

 

But you cannot see that from the cover officer's viewpoint, did you film it? Did you try placing it on the ground and then firing it at the officer and compare them? The bodycam footage clearly shows the officer is in the right,

 

Who's doing that?

 

You mean you chickened out? Get some toy guns and act it out and you will see my posting name is entirely apt.

Thanks.

 

the cop murderer... the cop who murdered a man. Oh I am a very empathic individual, just not a fan of the taste of bile in my mouth when witnessing the actions of 'humans' masquerading as men. No doubt you will continue to defend the indefensible and my eyes obviously do not see as yours.. but I shall pass on the rest of the thread. only posted again to see what happened to the killer

 

You most certainly can. What are you even talking about? Are you now claiming, absurdly, that the cover officer could not see what is plainly visible on his body cam footage?

No, because that would be idiotic nonsense, which is why you concocted it.

No, it clearly shows he murdered an innocent man, and you are trying unsuccessfully to rationalize, justify, and excuse that murder.

 

That did not happen; he never pointed the weapon at anyone; he was crouching down to place the gun on the floor; and the body cam recordings prove it, end of story.

 

Sadly, we know of one person on this site that excuses this unconsciousable behavior. Beyond asinine.

And, I would bet the farm that someone might think ALL of these killings were justified. I didn't look at the individual cases but I'm pretty sure ALL of these people didn't resist arrest and/or have weapons.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

 

He didn't murder anyone, you know he genuinely thought the gunman was about to shoot the contact officer, you know that from his viewpoint his actions were entirely reasonable. If you have the empathy you claim, use some for this poor officer.

 

No you can't, all you can see is him bringing it around his body towards the contact officer, watch it again. Have the courage of your convictions and recreate the incident, no one murdered anyone, you know fine rightly the cover officer genuinely thought he was trying to shoot the contact officer and his beliefs were reasonable in the circumstances.

 

But that is not what it looked liked to the cover officer, you're judging by the contact officer's footage with the benefit of hindsight but the cover officer never had that info.

 

Yours is the unconscionable behaviour, you must have empathy with the police officer, the man in the arena. No, they're not all justified, the recent SF case for instance but this one was.

 

No, that's false. Your claims are just objectively false. I'm not sure there is any clearer or simpler way of explaining that to you. The cover officer's body cam footage clear shows the murder victim slowly crouching to place his weapon on the floor, not brandishing it or pointing it at anyone. At no point in the cover officer's body cam video is there any indication that the murder victim is a threat to the contact officer or anyone else.

 

Yes you can.

No, your claim is still objectively false, just as it has been every previous time you have made it. The cover officer's body cam video clearly shows the murder victim crouching as he slowly moves the weapon down towards the floor. At no point does the murder victim brandish or point the weapon, or threaten the contact officer or anyone else. You know this.

It is impossible for anyone but a professional cinematographer to recreate the incident. The cover officer's body cam video clearly shows him murdering the victim, who was self-evidently in the process of disarming himself when he was suddenly murdered without warning.

No, I know that everyone who has watched the cover officer's body cam video knows that is false.

 

Besides your asinine historical revisionism, how in the world does ANYBODY except the murderous cop know what he was thinking?

 

It's not that clear and in the pressure of the moment it would be easy to see this outcome.

This was a noise complaint, is it possible that it was not the first event in this mess? Maybe the neighbor who called it in had knocked on the door earlier, had a confrontation that left both parties angry and that is why the guy opened the door and stepped right out carrying a gun. Most people would attempt to see who was on the porch before they stepped out armed. The cover officer did not have the advantage of multiple viewings, he had to make a decision in less than a second.

 

It is the cover Officers responsibility to take his limited perspective (which was limited by his chosen position) into consideration when making his decision. He did not do this. He screwed up. This doesn't make him a murderer. But it does make him a taker of an innocent life, unnecessarily. We are not terrorist occupiers of city structures to be ferreted out with hair triggers. We are American citizens living in our own homes to be addressed with respect and dignity. The Officer forgot to remember to see the whole, and allowed the moment to eclipse his judgment. All he saw was danger. Again, he screwed up.

Wow. I just watched the encounter from the cover Officers cam. And it is even more apparent that the man was putting his weapon down. It is more clear to me now that the Officer simply panicked at the sight of a gun. Completely uncalled for.

 

It's really hard to conceptualize this argument has been going for 41 pages now. Nobody has even suggested this was MALICIOUS. I certainly don't believe the cover officer pre-planned to kill the guy, but, kill him - he did. It was a mistake. A horrible, tragic mistake but a man is dead because of it.

 

No it doesn't, you cannot see his right hand on the other side of his body, that's the whole point, if he saw that he wouldn't have fired

 

No it doesn't , you cannot see what the gunman is doing with his right hand through his body, the contact can see that, not the cover officer or he wouldn't have fired.

 

Yes he did take an innocent life (although the stupidity of the gunman beggars belief) but from the cover officer's perspective you cannot see him putting it down, only bringing it around.

 

Ok, that's better, no one is screaming about 'murderers'. The man is dead but is that anyone's fault? Well, I'd partly say it was his for answering the door gun in hand but even if the cover officer was wrong are his actions understandable in the split second life and death decision?

 

You are blaming the VICTIM.

Many years ago, I was in a car accident. I was making a right turn when I was hit from behind. My car hit a brick building and they had to cut the car open to get me out. An eye witness saw the other driver speed away, followed him to his residence and reported it to the police. The man admitted that he panicked as he thought he had killed me. His attorney asked for leniency because the man was taking some kind of medication (I can't remember what it was but it wasn't one that should have impaired his thinking or driving). He was found guilty but had subpar insurance so my insurance covered most of it and I was in physical therapy for about two years.

Would you say his leaving the scene of an accident was understandable?
Would you say he made a mistake?
Would you say that he should have been called to court?
Would you say that he should have been accountable for the accident?

I believe any REASONABLE person would say "yes" to all those questions. If you agree with that, why can you not see that this officer was in the wrong? He panicked, overreacted and killed a man. His badge doesn't excuse the action.

You aren't reading or ingesting anything anyone has posted. And, like it or not, the man had every right to answer his door with a weapon. That part is understandable if he lived in a bad area and/or had had previous problems with his neighbors.

You are digging your heels in and blindly excusing the officer SOLELY because he has a badge and that's the primary reason people don't trust the police or the system to bring these types of cops to justice. The cop was in the wrong and everyone except you and possibly his commanding officer can see that.